Engineer - Power Grenadier
I respect Wolfineer and builds he makes. But this is not the optimal Dungeon build for Engineer, something like this is much better. We should probably leave this build here and make a new page with the optimal build. Since this still isn't a bad build just not the best dungeon build. --DantesS_P (talk) 21:07, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
- Just checked the build on wolfineer's forum. It's mostly correct it's just this build page that's inconsistent. Probably better to just overhaul this page so it's optimal. --DantesS_P (talk) 21:11, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
Cleaned it up a bit
Removed might stacking sigils since you need to focus on group might. Especially with Engi it is possible to gain 21 stacks of might by yourself. I'm also going to add a few variants for newer players like swiftness on crit/vigor combo and runes of strength. --DantesS_P (talk) 15:06, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
To cap vulnerability during boss fights with most party compositions you'll want food with +condition duration, preferably
, barring those
Engineer dungeon build September/2014 update
Nike DnT Video Looks like not many changes to the build 2 traits, Flamethrower over Bomb, and Assassin over Berserker. But since Nike has now made a video hopefully Engis will start running better builds. I'm going to make the changes and remove Wolfineer's video because it wasn't optimal even pre patch. -- Dantes (talk) 18:07, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
Is a Toxic Sharpening Stone not better than a Superior? You get almost exactly the same Power boost and another 10% Condi duration. The are, admittedly, twice the price, though.
Updated the build to use Assassins weapons and
Considering all the conditions that come from this build (and the possible increase of condi stacks in a future release), would Sinister gear be viable or is power/ferocity > condi damage? « Chase ♥ ♥ ♥ » 01:21, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
Siege rounds vs Shrapnel
500 dps worth of bleeds which take up to 20 seconds to reach the maximum dps is in no way better than siege rounds in any dungeon scenario. Most fights lasts shorter than 15 seconds and you need as much initial burst as possible. Besides that, having an extra blast finisher available does wonders for stacking might at the beginning of a fight, reaching 25 might faster (than with just a phalanx war). Orbital strike easily hits for 10k, double that with the trait. And finally, its advised by brazil (for what it's worth), and he even prioritizes Thermobaric Detonation over shrapnel, further signaling how bad it is. https://youtu.be/X-k-BLJiBbA?t=242 Ocirne (talk) 10:42, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
- Fair enough, but in longer fights shrapnel will be better, especially now with the bugged grenadier trait since shrapnel has no icd. Abe
From deleted power mortar build
Alch VS Tools
The point that you lose perm vigor (50% reg) when you trait in tools is clueless, since you trait on "Adrenal Implant", "Kinetic Charge" is nice, but you must evade, so you lose your 10% modifier and if you have a ele with Icebow you don't will get that evade. Plus you get "Optimized Activation" that grands 2s Vigor for every Toolbelt skill (atm its bugged, Vigor and Adrenal Implant doesn't stack).
To the HGH, yeah you lose the might, but in a good group you have a Phalanx Warrior that provides 25 might.
Heavy Armor Exploit VS High Caliber
You dont need that extra vuln cause the most professions get a vul buf with the update so you dont need more than the 25 you get easily in every group. With High Caliber and Hermatic you get 20% krit chance + Fury 20% + Banner 8% + Spotter 7%; you reach 105% in 80 Dungeons with FULL Berserker gear, so DMG up.
Check video guide
Well, threw something together even though nobody really cares about dungeons anymore. http://metabattle.com/wiki/User:Ocirne/Engineer_-_Power_Grenadier_Scrapper
Since optimal team composition is different for every fractal, and so many traits/utilities are swapped out between encounters, there is not really much value in maintaining meta builds imo. Also, builds that are amazing at carrying pug groups are usually just mediocre in highly organized groups. Ocirne (talk) 17:58, 29 October 2015 (UTC)