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Part of the current metagame.

Our curator decided this build is in the current metagame regardless of rating. The community gave this build a rating, making it top-tier: Great.

Focused on: Condition damageBoon removal.

Designed for:

Overview

A PvP Scourge build centered around AoE boon corruption and condition damage. Offers higher pressure than Blood Sage at the cost of lower sustain/utility, making it less popular in ranked, but much more common at automated tournaments where its reliance on support from the team isn't a problem and roles are more defined.


Usually paired with a Bunker Firebrand which serves as an enabler for Scourge in team fights while it shreds the enemy bunkers (and the team in general).

Skill Bar

Scepter/TorchHealingUtilityElite
Staff

Slot Changes

Utility

There are plenty of viable options for the remaining slot:


Heal

Specializations

Curses:


Plague Sending.png Plague Sending



Path of Corruption.png Path of Corruption



Weakening Shroud.png Weakening Shroud


Variants


Soul Reaping:


Soul Marks.png Soul Marks



Fear of Death.png Fear of Death



Dhuumfire.png Dhuumfire



Scourge:


Nourishing Ashes.png Nourishing Ashes



Sadistic Searing.png Sadistic Searing



Demonic Lore.png Demonic Lore



Equipment

Scepter.png
Torch.png
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Superior Sigil of Agility
9Recharge.png
Superior Sigil of Agility.pngSuperior Sigil of Agility
Gain 5 seconds of swiftness and 1 second of quickness when you swap to this weapon while in combat. (Cooldown: 9s)
Superior Sigil of Revocation
10Recharge.png
Superior Sigil of Revocation.pngSuperior Sigil of Revocation
On hit, remove a boon. (Cooldown: 10s)
I.png
Staff.png
II.png
Superior Sigil of Annulment
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Superior Sigil of Annulment.pngSuperior Sigil of Annulment
Your next attack after swapping to this weapon while in combat will remove 2 boons from your target.
Superior Sigil of Escape
18Recharge.png
Superior Sigil of Escape.pngSuperior Sigil of Escape
Remove movement-impairing effects from yourself when swapping to this weapon while in combat.
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Superior Rune of Balthazar
Superior Rune of Balthazar.pngSuperior Rune of Balthazar
(1): +25 Condition Damage (2): +10% Burning Duration (3): +50 Condition Damage (4): +20% Burning Duration (5): +100 Condition Damage (6): +20% Burning Duration; +10% maximum health.
Deadshot Amulet
Deadshot Amulet.pngDeadshot Amulet
+1050 Precision +1050 Condition Damage +560 Vitality +560 Expertise

Equipment Changes

Rune

  • for overall condition duration boost.
  • offers higher condition burst damage, but lower duration.
  • should you need better mobility, although your damage will be somewhat lower. Popular choice for solo players.

Amulet

  • Carrion Amulet Carrion Amulet
    Carrion Amulet.pngCarrion Amulet
    +900 Power +900 Vitality +1200 Condition Damage
    trades condition duration for more HP and slightly higher burst damage.

Usage

Elite specialization basics

  • Death Shroud.png Death Shroud is replaced by shade skills, but shroud related traits still work. Life Force (LF) is no longer drained passively or upon taking damage, but instead serves as a resource used by F2-5 skills (F1, which places the shade, is free).
  • Manifest Sand Shade.png Manifest Sand Shade adds a bit of range to the build and acts as somewhat spammable source of damage.
  • Even with no active shades you can make full use of your kit, as F2-5 skills also go off around the caster. The effects however do not stack - if the target is in range of both the caster and the shade, he won't get hit twice by the same skill.
  • Dhuumfire.png Dhuumfire will proc on every single shade skill, including Manifest Sand Shade.
  • Plague Sending.png Plague Sending and (if taken) Weakening Shroud.png Weakening Shroud are activated by Desert Shroud.png Desert Shroud.
  • Path of Corruption.png Path of Corruption is activated by 24px Nefarious Favor.
  • Every shade skill inflicts Burning Burning (5s ICD), Cripple Cripple, and Torment Torment.


General

  • Playstyle: your job is to keep the enemy team pressured through the constant application of conditions and boon corruption. Avoid 1v1s, stay with your team (especially the Firebrand).
  • Superior Sigil of Agility Superior Sigil of Agility
    9Recharge.png
    Superior Sigil of Agility.pngSuperior Sigil of Agility
    Gain 5 seconds of swiftness and 1 second of quickness when you swap to this weapon while in combat. (Cooldown: 9s)
    's Quickness Quickness can be used in many ways, like pulling off the 24px Oppressive Collapse + Feast of Corruption.png Feast of Corruption combo better, or just getting your heal off quicker and with less risk.
  • Do not spam your staff marks on the ground while out of combat, as a single dodge can undo them all. Placing Mark of Blood.png Mark of Blood on chokes to detect enemies crossing in stealth is fine however, as it's a rather short CD and weak one.
  • Manifest Sand Shade.png Manifest Sand Shade converts a condition into a boon upon being placed.
  • Necromancer mobility/sustain is rather bad, so try to make use of the terrain with proper positioning. Make it hard for enemies to reach you especially ranged ones - pillars are your second best friend, right after a bunker Firebrand.
  • The build has 2 mass cleanses - Consume Conditions.png Consume Conditions and Putrid Mark.png Putrid Mark.
  • If taken consider using Trail of Anguish.png Trail of Anguish before your heal for the Stability Stability while under heavy pressure.
  • Ghastly Breach.png Ghastly Breach is a rather powerful skill, but also easily avoidable. Don't just drop it randomly at the start of the fight, wait for the right moment - look for a situation where you can make your opponent overcommit. Place it on enemies trying to revive their downed teammate, or under yourself on low HP to either scare them off or take the bait.
  • Corrupt Boon.png Corrupt Boon is not only a great spike skill, but also a defensive one - thanks to the low cast time CB can be used to counterpressure targets. Someone's chasing you with Stability Stability and Might Might stacks? Turn their boons against them, right into Fear Fear and Weakness Weakness! It's also unblockable.
  • Even just a two skill chain of Corrupt Boon.png Corrupt Boon Feast of Corruption.png Feast of Corruption is already a decent burst combo, inflicting up to 6 different conditions and stripping at least 5 boons (potentially more with sigils).


Life force management

  • As your shade skills cost LF, being efficient at managing this resource will be crucial for both your damage and sustain. We're going to list all the sources and provide a few tips for getting the most out of them.
  • All staff skills generate life force:
    • Necrotic Grasp.png Necrotic Grasp is a rather weak skill and there's no way you'll be able to use it much under any pressure. It does however generate 5% LF per target hit, and you should use it for the occasional ranged poking. Alternatively, right after you won a fight (and no enemies are nearby who could rez their downed allies) you can use the downed bodies as batteries and just spam staff autos at them for a substantial amount of free life force.
    • Marks are unblockable and generate 3% LF each. Mark of Blood.png Mark of Blood and Chilblains.png Chilblains can be used freely for just pressure and LF building, while Putrid Mark.png Putrid Mark and Reaper's Mark.png Reaper's Mark are more powerful and should be kept for the proper occasion (Putrid for mass cleansing and Reaper's for interrupting).
  • On scepter/torch you have 2 such skills:
    • Feast of Corruption.png Feast of Corruption should be used with at least ~4 conditions on the target, both your burst damage and LF stacking benefits from the higher number of conditions on the target. Make sure that this skill lands by CCing the target with either 24px Oppressive Collapse or Garish Pillar.png Garish Pillar.
    • Harrowing Wave.png Harrowing Wave is rather straightforward, just try to hit as many targets as possible including Ranger pets and Mesmer illusions.
  • Finally, boon removal (not just corruption, but any kind of removal including some of your sigil effects) grants 5% per boon on a 5s CD via Nourishing Ashes.png Nourishing Ashes. You can corrupt boons with Manifest Sand Shade.png Manifest Sand Shade or any of your Punishment skills (heal, elite, etc) among other things.

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16 Ratings
5 stars
Baescons gave this build 5 stars last month

Popular among some streamers for condi damage and corrupts atm. Also a pretty core spec for team play still

5 stars
Hanz gave this build 5 stars April 2019

Scourge is the elite spec with the highest pressure in PvP as of now. It's broken to the point where there are probably a dozen working versions so it's hard to pick one, we'll stick to this for now.

April edit: still one of the best thing to have in an AT comp.

5 stars
Dome gave this build 5 stars December 2018

If you know how to play this class, it can be deadly.

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5 stars
Shiroshiro gave this build 5 stars November 2018

Ridiculously underrated. This build provides hard AOE pressure and high sustainability as well. The only counter is range dps (soulbeast and deadeye).

Note: if you can't burst a scourge down in 5secs, run.

5 stars
Nathanel gave this build 5 stars April 2018

still massive AOE pressure and till now one of the great picks in a meta comp.

5 stars
Kourros gave this build 5 stars February 2018

still the same complaint about how much blood sage is better but if you really look into it shadefire is still efficient and will remain better in the eyes of many as you can take down people much faster and fight for a long a time if you don't waste your skills.

5 stars
Vicolgnr1 gave this build 5 stars February 2018

Even after 6th Feb patch, this build is still a very much viable condi Meta, like it should be...

5 stars
Pwadigy gave this build 5 stars February 2018

Required for any successful team in an automated tournament or in upper-tiers of rank. Bunker+Necro is simply too grindy, and can survive just long enough to win team-fights against the move bursty of comps

5 stars
Wolfengrin gave this build 5 stars December 2017

This build seemed to take a bit of a hit in the meta as people adjusted to the boon corruption and condi flood, and as people learned to play FB bunkers better. With the recent barrier buffs, however, Shadefire is back on top. You see two on almost every team again. The extra survivability and support it gives is more than enough to make a good Shadefire necro a real pain to deal with. Feels like a quasi-bunker, if you know how to keep your barriers up at the right times.

5 stars
Ninjaboy6728 gave this build 5 stars November 2017

Okiecub is silly, this build is great. Provides tons of aoe condition damage. Good amount of crowd control, condition removal and shields on yourself and your team. The only thing lacking with this build is mobility, but when your a bulky, high damage, large aoe, killing machine it doesnt matter

5 stars
Rincewind gave this build 5 stars November 2017

It removes boons, kills things, and wins team fights. Once hunted by the nefarious spellbreaker, but now really only contested by mirage. There are a lot of small variations you could make on this build, and it would not lose any strength, because that is how good it is.

5 stars
Rawrakai gave this build 5 stars October 2017

today's update had no impact on this build. bug fix only mattered with multiple shades, shade timers irrelevant without multiple shades, dhuumfire missing on shroud still makes it deadly, increased recharge on nefarious favor makes the spellbreaker matchup worse, but they got nerfed way harder so it will likely actually be easier.

5 stars
Sweatyman gave this build 5 stars October 2017

After with today's update with bug fixes and ninja nerfs, the reduced timers on sand shades and with dhuumfire not procing as much as it used to resulted a loss of dps, all on all its still a decent build on ripping boons away from guardians and warriors, but now deals less damage. My rating would change as soon as adjustments were done to this build to make it feasible.

5 stars
Serana gave this build 5 stars October 2017

Offers the highest pressure out of any PvP build at the moment. Best when supported as the survivability isn't the best though the burst condi DPS is unmatched. Fairly easy to play with no outstanding weaknesses.

5 stars
Nox Tox gave this build 5 stars October 2017

It is insanely easy to play and the damage output is incredible. It is a hight pressure build with a proper condi burst. Survivability is good - nearly great. From my perspective the whole build is way to good and leads to a annoying condi spam in every game. Has nothing to do with skill but is awesome if you want to hit the buttons on cd.

5 stars
Foxman525 gave this build 5 stars October 2017

While I find this build to be meta type since Scourge is simply high on the pvp balance ladder at the moment, some of the choices of the original build are a bit flawed. Sand Flare is obviously superior to Consume Conditions for cast time and CD, and etc. Unending Corruption seems to be only good at 1v1 against boon bots like warrior and guardian, but against other professions like another Necro seems to do very little since we have so much corruption anyways.

I suggest adding Sadistic Searing to at least optionals, and mention how Sand Swell is buggy when used on the Y-axis, and how it disappears before it's duration.

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