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Guardian - GS Mace/Focus/Torch

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Focused on: Direct damageUtility.

Designed for:

Overview

A basic Mace/Focus and Greatsword build for any PvE dungeon.

Skill Bar

GreatswordHealingUtilityElite
Mace/Focus
Scepter/x
Orb of Wrath
¼Activation.png
Orb of Wrath
Fire a slow-moving orb at your foe.
Damage.pngDamage: 162
Range.pngRange: 1,200
Smite
¼Activation.png
6Recharge.png
Smite
Strike foes in the target area repeatedly.
Damage.pngDamage: 80
Book.pngNumber of Impacts: 16
Radius.pngRadius: 200
Range.pngRange: 1,200
Chains of Light
½Activation.png
20Recharge.png
Chains of Light
Immobilize and make your foe vulnerable with ethereal chains.
Damage.pngDamage: 61
Immobilize.pngImmobilize (2s): Unable to move.
Vulnerability.png3Vulnerability (6s): 3% Incoming Damage
Range.pngRange: 900
x/Torch
Zealot's Flame
15Recharge.png
Zealot's Flame
Set yourself alight, periodically burning up to three nearby foes.
Zealot's Flame.pngZealot's Flame (3s): Burn nearby foes.
Burn.pngBurning (6s): 786 Damage
Book.pngNumber of Targets: 3
Radius.pngRadius: 180
Unblockable.pngUnblockable
Cleansing Flame
Activation.png
15Recharge.png
Cleansing Flame
Breathe magical flames that damage foes and cure conditions on allies.
Damage.png10Damage: 800
Book.pngNumber of Targets: 3
Book.pngPulses: 9
Range.pngRange: 400

Slot Changes

Weapons

  • Scepter is for ranged or large hitboxes.
  • Torch is for max DPS variant.

Utilities

  • Swapping out
    is perfectly acceptable if needed, but keep in mind that you are giving up a significant personal DPS boost.
  • Use
    for fights where projectiles are an issue.
    • Additionally use
      for projectile heavy fights.
    • If you are still having trouble:
Replace
with
in Virtues.
Consider swapping
with
in Zeal. This reduces the cooldown on the shield's command skill, allowing you to use it three times.
  • Use
    and/or
    for crowd control heavy fights.
  • Use
    for condition heavy fights.
  • Use
    for blocks in hard boss fights or for swiftness and aegis during skips.

Elite Skill

  • Use
    for more survivability and utility.
  • Use
    for a dps increase.

Weapons

  • Having a Scepter for stationary bosses or bosses with big hitboxes is optimal.
  • Having a Torch for max DPS when the blocks on Focus are not needed or in the Scepter build.
  • Having a Hammer is good for the short cooldown blast on
    or for the CC.
  • Having a Staff for additional swiftness when skipping with
    is the only thing a Staff is good for outside of niche uses of
    and
    .

Specializations

Quick summary of where the main build and scepter builds should be used coming soon (TM).

Main Build

Variants

  • When you swap out your
    , you should consider taking
    , however keep in mind blocking an attack with this trait specialized will put you in combat.
  • If you feel like having trouble keeping up
    , you can swap out
    for
    and use
    right before the fight.
  • In less organized groups/PUG-Runs (where you dont benefit that much from Icebow burst and reflects) you should consider taking
    .

Variants

  • You can take
    for a better reflection uptime.
  • You can take
    if you need the Stability or an extra Stunbreaker.

Scepter Build

Variants

  • When using it as a solo build use
    .

Variants

  • When using it as a solo build take
    .

Equipment

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6x
Superior Rune of the Scholar
14x
Mighty Infusion

Variants

Sigils
If you're not in a night time dungeon swap
for:
for day time dungeons/fractals.
for The Ruined City of Arah.
for Caudecus's Manor and Cliffside.
/
Superior Sigil of Wrath Superior Sigil of Wrath
Superior Sigil of Wrath.pngSuperior Sigil of Wrath
+10% Damage vs. Sons of Svanir
for Honor of the Waves.

Note: It may benefit you to keep a separate weapon for each variant in your inventory as swapping sigils over time can become expensive.

Runes
  • Use
    if you find yourself dipping below 90% health. The reason this works is because
    Purging Flames Purging Flames
    ¾Activation.png
    35Recharge.png
    Purging Flames
    Consecration. Create a ring of fire that burns foes and cures conditions on allies.
    Burn.png3Burning (5s): 1,965 Damage
    Purging Flames.pngPurging Flames: Condition duration is reduced by 33%
    Book.pngConditions Removed: 3
    Book.pngNumber of Targets: 5
    Duration.pngDuration: 5 seconds
    Radius.pngRadius: 240
    Combo.pngCombo Field: Fire
    and
    Virtue of Justice Virtue of Justice
    25Recharge.png
    Virtue of Justice
    Virtue: Burn foes every few attack.
    Activate: You and your allies inflict burning on the next attack.
    Burn.pngBurning (passive effect) (2s): 264 Damage
    Burn.pngBurning (active effect) (4s): 524 Damage
    Book.pngNumber of Targets: 5
    Book.pngNumber of Attacks to Trigger: 5
    Radius.pngRadius: 600
    give constant burning.
Food
or
for a cheaper alternative.
for the better and more expensive version.
if you feel you need the extra heal or for low man groups.
use this when on Scepter Solo Build.

Utility

or
Ascalonian Catacombs
Swamp Fractal
Urban Battleground Fractal
Thaumanova Fractal
Powerful Potion of Outlaw Slaying Powerful Potion of Outlaw Slaying
Powerful Potion of Outlaw Slaying.pngPowerful Potion of Outlaw Slaying
Nourishment (1 h):
Potion.png+10% damage vs outlaws-10% damage from outlaws+10 Experience from kills
Consumable
Caudecus's Manor
Cliffside Fractal
Powerful Potion of Slaying Scarlet's Armies Powerful Potion of Slaying Scarlet's Armies
Powerful Potion of Slaying Scarlet's Armies.pngPowerful Potion of Slaying Scarlet's Armies
Nourishment (1 h):
Potion.png+10% damage vs. Toxic Alliance, Watchwork, Aetherblade, and Molten Alliance- 10% damage from Toxic Alliance, Watchwork, Aetherblade, and Molten Alliance+15% Experience from kills
Consumable
Twilight Arbor
Molten Furnace Fractal
Aetherblade Fractal
Captain Mai Trin Boss Fractal
Molten Boss Fractal
Powerful Potion of Inquest Slaying Powerful Potion of Inquest Slaying
Powerful Potion of Inquest Slaying.pngPowerful Potion of Inquest Slaying
Nourishment (1 h):
Potion.png+10% damage vs. inquest-10% damage from inquest+10 Experience from kills
Consumable
Sorrow's Embrace P1 and P2 from Taskmaster on
Uncategorized Fractal, starting with old Tom
Crucible of Eternity, Golems
Powerful Potion of Dredge Slaying Powerful Potion of Dredge Slaying
Powerful Potion of Dredge Slaying.pngPowerful Potion of Dredge Slaying
Nourishment (1 h):
Potion.png+10% damage vs. Dredge-10% damage from Dredge+10% Experience from Kills
Consumable
Sorrow's Embrace P3 and first part of P2 till Taskmaster
Underground Facility Fractal aka Dredge Fractal
Powerful Potion of Flame Legion Slaying Powerful Potion of Flame Legion Slaying
Powerful Potion of Flame Legion Slaying.pngPowerful Potion of Flame Legion Slaying
Nourishment (1 h):
Potion.png+10% damage vs. Flame Legion-10% damage from Flame Legion+10% Experience from Kills
Consumable
Citadel of Flames
Powerful Potion of Sons of Svanir Slaying Powerful Potion of Sons of Svanir Slaying
Powerful Potion of Sons of Svanir Slaying.pngPowerful Potion of Sons of Svanir Slaying
Nourishment (1h):
Potion.png+10% damage vs. sons of Svanir-10% damage from sons of Svanir+10 Experience from kills
Consumable
Honor of the Waves
Snowblind Fractal
Powerful Potion of Ice Brood Slaying Powerful Potion of Ice Brood Slaying
Powerful Potion of Ice Brood Slaying.pngPowerful Potion of Ice Brood Slaying
Nourishment (1 h):
Potion.png+10% damage vs. ice brood-10% damage from ice brood+10 Experience from kills
Consumable
Honor of the Waves
Powerful Potion of Undead Slaying Powerful Potion of Undead Slaying
Powerful Potion of Undead Slaying.pngPowerful Potion of Undead Slaying
Nourishment (1 h):
Potion.png+10% Damage vs. Undead-10% Damage from Undead+10% Experience from Kills
Consumable
Arah
Crucible of Eternity, Subject Alpha
Powerful Potion of Elemental Slaying Powerful Potion of Elemental Slaying
Powerful Potion of Elemental Slaying.pngPowerful Potion of Elemental Slaying
Nourishment (1 h):
Potion.png+10% damage vs elementals-10% damage from elementals+10 Experience from kills
Consumable
Underground Facility Fractal, Elemental Endboss
Volcanic Fractal, Lava Elementals

Usage

GS Mace/Focus

  • The skill rotation is rather simple:
  • Start with Mace/Focus
  1. Weapon swap Weapon swap
  2. until
    is nearly off cooldown.
  3. Weapon swap Weapon swap
  4. until
    is off cooldown.
  5. Weapon swap Weapon swap
  6. Repeat from step 6.

GS Mace/Torch

  • Practically the same as GS Mace/Focus rotation, but has an added intricacy:
  • Start with Mace/Focus
  1. Ray of Judgment Ray of Judgment
    ¾Activation.png
    20Recharge.png
    Ray of Judgment
    Pass a ray over foes and allies. Foes are damaged and blinded. Allies gain regeneration and cure one condition.
    Damage.pngDamage: 122
    Regeneration.pngRegen (3s): 390 Heal
    Blind.pngBlindness (3s): Next outgoing attack misses.
    Book.pngNumber of Bounces: 4
    Range.pngRange: 1,200
    and
    Shield of Wrath Shield of Wrath
    36Recharge.png
    Shield of Wrath
    Create a shield to block next three attacks. If the shield is not destroyed, it explodes and damages nearby foes.
    Damage.pngDamage: 609
    Shield of Wrath.png3Shield of Wrath (4s): Block attacks. Explodes when it ends.
    Book.pngNumber of Targets: 5
    Radius.pngRadius: 240
    Combo.pngCombo Finisher: Blast
    while running towards the boss, swap to Torch offhand before getting in combat.
  2. Symbol of Faith Symbol of Faith
    Activation.png
    8Recharge.png
    Symbol of Faith
    Symbol. Smash a mystic symbol onto the ground that damages foes and regenerates allies.
    Damage.png5Damage: 610
    Regeneration.png5Regen (1s): 650 Heal
    Book.pngNumber of Targets: 5
    Duration.pngSymbol Duration: 4 seconds
    Radius.pngSymbol Radius: 180
    Combo.pngCombo Field: Light
  3. Virtue of Justice Virtue of Justice
    25Recharge.png
    Virtue of Justice
    Virtue: Burn foes every few attack.
    Activate: You and your allies inflict burning on the next attack.
    Burn.pngBurning (passive effect) (2s): 264 Damage
    Burn.pngBurning (active effect) (4s): 524 Damage
    Book.pngNumber of Targets: 5
    Book.pngNumber of Attacks to Trigger: 5
    Radius.pngRadius: 600
  4. Zealot's Flame Zealot's Flame
    15Recharge.png
    Zealot's Flame
    Set yourself alight, periodically burning up to three nearby foes.
    Zealot's Flame.pngZealot's Flame (3s): Burn nearby foes.
    Burn.pngBurning (6s): 786 Damage
    Book.pngNumber of Targets: 3
    Radius.pngRadius: 180
    Unblockable.pngUnblockable
    ->
    Zealot's Fire Zealot's Fire
    ¾Activation.png
    Zealot's Fire
    Throw you Zealot's Flame at the targeted foe, damaging them but increasing the skill's recharge time by 50%.
    Damage.pngDamage: 720
    Burn.png3Burning (3s): 1,179 Damage
    Range.pngRange: 1,200
    (x2 when using
    )
  5. Weapon swap Weapon swap
  6. Whirling Wrath Whirling Wrath
    ¾Activation.png
    10Recharge.png
    Whirling Wrath
    Spin in a place and swing your greatsword while hurling powerful projectiles.
    Damage.png7Damage: 637
    Book.pngNumber of Impacts: 7
    Book.pngNumber of Targets: 5
    Radius.pngRadius: 130
    Combo.pngCombo Finisher: Whirl
    Range.pngRange: 600
  7. Binding Blade Binding Blade
    ¾Activation.png
    30Recharge.png
    Binding Blade
    Throw blades at your foe, causing damage over time. Bound foes can be pulled to you. The effect ends when a foe moves out of range.
    Damage.pngDamage: 244
    Book.pngNumber of Targets: 5
    Duration.pngMaximum Blade Duration: 10 seconds
    Radius.pngMaximum Leash Range: 600
    Combo.pngCombo Finisher: Whirl
  8. Leap of Faith Leap of Faith
    ½Activation.png
    15Recharge.png
    Leap of Faith
    Leap at your foe. On hit, blind nearby foes.
    Damage.pngDamage: 268
    Blind.pngBlindness (3s): Next outgoing attack misses.
    Book.pngNumber of Targets: 5
    Combo.pngCombo Finisher: Leap
    Range.pngRange: 600
  9. Strike Strike
    ½Activation.png
    Strike
    Chain. Strike your foe.
    Damage.pngDamage: 195
    Book.pngNumber of Targets: 3
    Range.pngRange: 130
    until
    Whirling Wrath Whirling Wrath
    ¾Activation.png
    10Recharge.png
    Whirling Wrath
    Spin in a place and swing your greatsword while hurling powerful projectiles.
    Damage.png7Damage: 637
    Book.pngNumber of Impacts: 7
    Book.pngNumber of Targets: 5
    Radius.pngRadius: 130
    Combo.pngCombo Finisher: Whirl
    Range.pngRange: 600
    is nearly off cooldown.
  10. Symbol of Wrath Symbol of Wrath
    ¼Activation.png
    20Recharge.png
    Symbol of Wrath
    Symbol. Pierce the ground with a mystic symbol that damages foes while granting retaliation to allies.
    Damage.png5Damage: 670
    Retaliation.png5Retaliation (1s): Reflect incoming damage back to its source.
    Book.pngNumber of Targets: 5
    Duration.pngSymbol Duration: 4 seconds
    Radius.pngSymbol Radius: 180
    Combo.pngCombo Field: Light
  11. Whirling Wrath Whirling Wrath
    ¾Activation.png
    10Recharge.png
    Whirling Wrath
    Spin in a place and swing your greatsword while hurling powerful projectiles.
    Damage.png7Damage: 637
    Book.pngNumber of Impacts: 7
    Book.pngNumber of Targets: 5
    Radius.pngRadius: 130
    Combo.pngCombo Finisher: Whirl
    Range.pngRange: 600
  12. Weapon swap Weapon swap
  13. Symbol of Faith Symbol of Faith
    Activation.png
    8Recharge.png
    Symbol of Faith
    Symbol. Smash a mystic symbol onto the ground that damages foes and regenerates allies.
    Damage.png5Damage: 610
    Regeneration.png5Regen (1s): 650 Heal
    Book.pngNumber of Targets: 5
    Duration.pngSymbol Duration: 4 seconds
    Radius.pngSymbol Radius: 180
    Combo.pngCombo Field: Light
  14. Zealot's Flame Zealot's Flame
    15Recharge.png
    Zealot's Flame
    Set yourself alight, periodically burning up to three nearby foes.
    Zealot's Flame.pngZealot's Flame (3s): Burn nearby foes.
    Burn.pngBurning (6s): 786 Damage
    Book.pngNumber of Targets: 3
    Radius.pngRadius: 180
    Unblockable.pngUnblockable
    ->
    Zealot's Fire Zealot's Fire
    ¾Activation.png
    Zealot's Fire
    Throw you Zealot's Flame at the targeted foe, damaging them but increasing the skill's recharge time by 50%.
    Damage.pngDamage: 720
    Burn.png3Burning (3s): 1,179 Damage
    Range.pngRange: 1,200
  15. True Strike True Strike
    ½Activation.png
    True Strike
    Chain. Smash your foe.
    Damage.pngDamage: 195
    Book.pngNumber of Targets: 3
    Range.pngRange: 130
    until
    Symbol of Faith Symbol of Faith
    Activation.png
    8Recharge.png
    Symbol of Faith
    Symbol. Smash a mystic symbol onto the ground that damages foes and regenerates allies.
    Damage.png5Damage: 610
    Regeneration.png5Regen (1s): 650 Heal
    Book.pngNumber of Targets: 5
    Duration.pngSymbol Duration: 4 seconds
    Radius.pngSymbol Radius: 180
    Combo.pngCombo Field: Light
    is off cooldown.
  16. Symbol of Faith Symbol of Faith
    Activation.png
    8Recharge.png
    Symbol of Faith
    Symbol. Smash a mystic symbol onto the ground that damages foes and regenerates allies.
    Damage.png5Damage: 610
    Regeneration.png5Regen (1s): 650 Heal
    Book.pngNumber of Targets: 5
    Duration.pngSymbol Duration: 4 seconds
    Radius.pngSymbol Radius: 180
    Combo.pngCombo Field: Light
  17. Weapon swap Weapon swap
  18. Repeat from step 6.

Scepter/Torch Scepter/Focus

  • The simplest rotation out of the three, the general idea is to use
    Smite Smite
    ¼Activation.png
    6Recharge.png
    Smite
    Strike foes in the target area repeatedly.
    Damage.pngDamage: 80
    Book.pngNumber of Impacts: 16
    Radius.pngRadius: 200
    Range.pngRange: 1,200
    off cooldown:
  1. Ray of Judgment Ray of Judgment
    ¾Activation.png
    20Recharge.png
    Ray of Judgment
    Pass a ray over foes and allies. Foes are damaged and blinded. Allies gain regeneration and cure one condition.
    Damage.pngDamage: 122
    Regeneration.pngRegen (3s): 390 Heal
    Blind.pngBlindness (3s): Next outgoing attack misses.
    Book.pngNumber of Bounces: 4
    Range.pngRange: 1,200
  2. Shield of Wrath Shield of Wrath
    36Recharge.png
    Shield of Wrath
    Create a shield to block next three attacks. If the shield is not destroyed, it explodes and damages nearby foes.
    Damage.pngDamage: 609
    Shield of Wrath.png3Shield of Wrath (4s): Block attacks. Explodes when it ends.
    Book.pngNumber of Targets: 5
    Radius.pngRadius: 240
    Combo.pngCombo Finisher: Blast
  3. Weapon swap Weapon swap
  4. Smite Smite
    ¼Activation.png
    6Recharge.png
    Smite
    Strike foes in the target area repeatedly.
    Damage.pngDamage: 80
    Book.pngNumber of Impacts: 16
    Radius.pngRadius: 200
    Range.pngRange: 1,200
  5. Zealot's Flame Zealot's Flame
    15Recharge.png
    Zealot's Flame
    Set yourself alight, periodically burning up to three nearby foes.
    Zealot's Flame.pngZealot's Flame (3s): Burn nearby foes.
    Burn.pngBurning (6s): 786 Damage
    Book.pngNumber of Targets: 3
    Radius.pngRadius: 180
    Unblockable.pngUnblockable
  6. Repeat step 4 and 5 when ready.

Other tips

  • Try not to interrupt the auto attack chain of both weapons unless necessary. Interrupting the auto attack chain will result in a dps loss.
  • Whirling Wrath Whirling Wrath
    ¾Activation.png
    10Recharge.png
    Whirling Wrath
    Spin in a place and swing your greatsword while hurling powerful projectiles.
    Damage.png7Damage: 637
    Book.pngNumber of Impacts: 7
    Book.pngNumber of Targets: 5
    Radius.pngRadius: 130
    Combo.pngCombo Finisher: Whirl
    Range.pngRange: 600
    can do more damage than stated in the tooltip. Click on the skill link for details.
  • When pulling a mob/group of mobs as a guardian, use
    Ray of Judgment Ray of Judgment
    ¾Activation.png
    20Recharge.png
    Ray of Judgment
    Pass a ray over foes and allies. Foes are damaged and blinded. Allies gain regeneration and cure one condition.
    Damage.pngDamage: 122
    Regeneration.pngRegen (3s): 390 Heal
    Blind.pngBlindness (3s): Next outgoing attack misses.
    Book.pngNumber of Bounces: 4
    Range.pngRange: 1,200
    . If you feel what you are pulling may hit you with crowd control conditions or a hard hitting skill, apply
    Shield of Wrath Shield of Wrath
    36Recharge.png
    Shield of Wrath
    Create a shield to block next three attacks. If the shield is not destroyed, it explodes and damages nearby foes.
    Damage.pngDamage: 609
    Shield of Wrath.png3Shield of Wrath (4s): Block attacks. Explodes when it ends.
    Book.pngNumber of Targets: 5
    Radius.pngRadius: 240
    Combo.pngCombo Finisher: Blast
    as you pull.
  • Shield of Wrath Shield of Wrath
    36Recharge.png
    Shield of Wrath
    Create a shield to block next three attacks. If the shield is not destroyed, it explodes and damages nearby foes.
    Damage.pngDamage: 609
    Shield of Wrath.png3Shield of Wrath (4s): Block attacks. Explodes when it ends.
    Book.pngNumber of Targets: 5
    Radius.pngRadius: 240
    Combo.pngCombo Finisher: Blast
    is a blast finisher, and can be used to blast combo fields, but it might unveil you if it is used to stack stealth.
  • Zealot's Defense Zealot's Defense
    ½Activation.png
    15Recharge.png
    Zealot's Defense
    Destroy ranged attacks while casting magical projectiles.
    Damage.png8Damage: 640
    Duration.pngBlock Duration: 3 seconds
    Range.pngRange: 600
    blocks projectiles and can be very helpful if used correctly.
  • Mighty Blow Mighty Blow
    ¾Activation.png
    5Recharge.png
    Mighty Blow
    Damages nearby foes with a mighty ground slam.
    Damage.pngDamage: 426
    Book.pngNumber of Targets: 5
    Radius.pngRadius: 180
    Combo.pngCombo Finisher: Blast
    Range.pngRange: 300
    is a blast finisher that should be taken advantage of when blasting fields as you can swap it in and out when out of combat.
  • Don't forget
    doesn't work when you use
    Virtue of Resolve Virtue of Resolve
    50Recharge.png
    Virtue of Resolve
    Virtue: Regenerates health.
    Activate: Heal yourself and nearby allies.
    Heal.pngVirtue of Resolve: 84 Heal
    Heal.pngHealing: 1,625
    Book.pngNumber of Targets: 5
    Radius.pngRadius: 600
    's active.
  • gives you another
    Zealot's Fire Zealot's Fire
    ¾Activation.png
    Zealot's Fire
    Throw you Zealot's Flame at the targeted foe, damaging them but increasing the skill's recharge time by 50%.
    Damage.pngDamage: 720
    Burn.png3Burning (3s): 1,179 Damage
    Range.pngRange: 1,200
    on a different CD than your normal Torch skill. Make sure to be on Torch when you start the fight, so you can throw it twice.
  • Do not use
    Virtue of Justice Virtue of Justice
    25Recharge.png
    Virtue of Justice
    Virtue: Burn foes every few attack.
    Activate: You and your allies inflict burning on the next attack.
    Burn.pngBurning (passive effect) (2s): 264 Damage
    Burn.pngBurning (active effect) (4s): 524 Damage
    Book.pngNumber of Targets: 5
    Book.pngNumber of Attacks to Trigger: 5
    Radius.pngRadius: 600
    active when running the Scepter Solo Build.
    gives you might on the passive effect.

Video Guides

  • YouTube:
    Focus/Torch Rotation
  • YouTube:
    The "Mysteries" about Whirling Wrath and Binding Blades
Build rating: 87%
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3 Ratings
Silver Medal - Good
Hanz said this build was good March 2016

Decent dps and utility, but Dh does it better.

Silver Medal - Good
Neok said this build was good January 2016

Outshone by Dragonhunter version and the non-HoT condi build.

Gold Medal - Great
Fredor said this build was great August 2015

Still the best mix of high burst potential and strong group support the guardian has.