Glad to see you here Dantes ^__^ I'm jpgray from reddit, and I was a former PvP Build Maser on the old PvX for GW1. Hope to get to work documenting the meta here soon!--TahiriVeila (talk) 17:03, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Hi Dantes :P I'm glad you are here to help us fill the PvP section! I want to include as much information (usage/counters/variations) as possible on each build, but ranger is the only class I haven't really played since GW1. i know how to counter them, but I couldn't really add depth to the Usage and Variations part. I've seen you added a power ranger already, could you help me out with more ranger builds such as Trap or BM? Because it seems you know the class. Hanz (talk) 19:05, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Sure I play quite a bit of Ranger. I'll add Trap in a bit. I don't know the current BM Ranger build so I would have to do some looking for the recent version of the build. Shout Ranger might also need to be added though generally a spirit ranger is preferred for support.--DantesS_P (talk) 20:40, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. haven't seen BM rangers in quite a while, but according to the ranger CDI (and a balance patch coming up with ranger being discussed tomorrow) I think every ex-meta build is worth documenting.--Hanz (talk) 10:36, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
Don't forget to sign your talk page posts with four tildes (~~~~). There's also a button at the top of the text editor that will add the tildes. ^__^--TahiriVeila (talk) 20:35, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
Yeah i know, but i was editing other pages meanwhile so I guess I forgot about it. But ty for the reminder ^^ --Hanz (talk) 10:36, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

PvP builds entering Trial period?[edit]

The collection currently has 24 builds (25 within 10 more mins), I think we already have all the meta builds and more. If you agree I may ask the siterunners if it's okay for them too to push the Pvp builds into Trial - this means that the site's traffic could start to increase. More views -> more popularity -> bigger chance to find contributors to the WvW and PvE sections because they to be expanded upon. I've tried to contact with 2 friends from major WvW guilds, leader of GH wasn't online since I've sent the mail to him but the other guy is interested and will spread it on their forum so that front looks good too.

Tho I wouldn't want to do this before the Main Page overhaul, any info about when exactly will that happen? --Hanz (talk) 19:11, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Yeah we should start moving PvP builds up to trial. Though there some obvious builds that should go straight to meta and skip trial. D/D Ele, AH Guard, Double Ranged Shatter, Terrormancer, Spirit Ranger, D/P and S/D Thief, Hambow, and Axe Warrior. And maybe a few others but those I would initially move those. And once we make the 6/0/0/6/2 Condi Engi that as well. We should ask the site creators we should do it now or wait. I don't think it will that big of a bother to most just the PvP builds for now. --DantesS_P (talk) 19:43, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
Personally I'd wait with it until Monday and then make an announcement on the official forum's PvP section. A question about moving someting to meta, I've tried it before but it did not show up on that page. Any ideas? Also, 1 thing I don't remember from the GW2 counterpart of this wiki is that if it's out of the Trial phase people are still able to rate the builds, right? --Hanz (talk) 20:02, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Requesting deletion[edit]

I've created the template Template:Delete. Simply add {{delete|reason for deletion}} to the top of any page you wish to request be deleted, and the template will add a little box and add the page to Category:Candidates for deletion which will list all of the pages that are candidates for deletion.--TV Thief Icon.jpgTahiriVeila(talk) 02:49, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

PvP section Engineer overhaul[edit]

You were right we should do a rearranging of these builds somehow, some should be merged. Judging by differences in trait-point distribution we should have: Bomb/Nade, Toolkit/optional (includes bomb and nade variants, there are only minor trait differences but they differ from bomb/nade largely) and finally Tripple Kit because that's playstyle and combo options just make it an entirely different beast. --Hanz (talk) 15:57, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

Those sound like the best options. We can merge Bomb/Tool and Nade/Tool. Bomb/Nade is it's own separate page. And Triple kit will probably end up with very different usage so I agree there. --DantesS_P (talk) 16:30, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

PvP section categorizing[edit]

Hi, currently i have a pending request about skipping the testing phase for the current PvP builds and just sort them by mutual agreement. I'm gonna post the names of the builds we have and my opinion about it's place, then if you disagree with one write the builds's name in a reply to this comment and your rating attached to it.

Ele: D/D - Meta and Great | Scepter Dagger - Great | Scepter/Focus - Good, because it's hard to pull-off and it's easy to oneshot it | Support Staff - Good

Engineer: Bomb/Nade - Great | Decap and its variant - Good (nerfed, will recieve future nerfs and any half decet team will outrotate it) | HGH Hybrid - Good | Riffle Hybrid - Good | Tool/optional kit - Meta and Great | Tripple Kit Condi - Great

Guardian: Altruistic Healing bunker - Meta and Great | Meditation DPS - Good | Meditation DPS variant - Great | Traditional Bunker - Great or Good not sure tbh

Mesmer: Condition Clone death - Great | Double Ranged Shatter - Meta and Great

Necromancer: Dhuumfire - Great | Minion master - Good | Standard Power nec - Good | Traditional Terrormancer - Meta and Great

Ranger: totally nerfed and out of meta by miles, all its builds are a "Good" at best I think, even Spirit too

Thief: Dagger/Pistol - Great | Sword/Dagger - Meta and Great | Sword/Pistol - Good

Warrior: Axe/Longbow Soldier - Meta and Great | Hambow - Meta and Great | Mace/Sword Lb condi - Great

What do you think? Btw wait before you make any changes to them I want to experiment a little. --Hanz (talk) 18:41, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

We should have users vote on the ratings on the builds. But I agree on all the the builds you placed as Meta. Traditional Bunker for Guard should be Great it really only fell out of use because of shifts in the metagame. Ranger I agree and I play a large amount of Ranger. The power creep from the April 15th was not nearly as generous to them. But if we are going to rate builds great or good we should really move them to trail and have Users vote on that. Though voting won't that that popular until we advertise on the official forums and we ask for a shoutout from Anet on Twitter/Facebook. Lets wait on giving builds ratings but we can move Meta Builds over since those don't need a rating. --DantesS_P (talk) 22:40, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
Saw your discussion on Galaxian's talk page. Yeah it won't matter to much at the start if we move builds to great/good. And it will make the wiki look more complete. The ratings I agree with but with the Traditional Guardian Bunker to Great.--DantesS_P (talk) 22:47, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
kk :P Yeah the reason behind this in-house rating thing really is that we have to catch up. I wouldn't do this with newer builds but there are some that are around since like 2012 and as you said, this gives it a more finished feeling. Once the PvP section can draw in crowds we can put the PvE and WvW builds into Trial maybe, while already having an established community. Also, I've been writing some guides for the PvP section to make it even more compelling. --Hanz (talk) 07:42, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

That red link[edit]

Was actually really bugging me. Thank you for the fix :) Chase (talk) 19:43, 4 August 2014 (UTC)


I noticed your plight in RC and sent you an email with a PvXwiki abuse filter that should help. Notifying you here in case your spam filter eats it. Toraen (talk) 20:03, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

It actually did end up in my Spam. Thank you for this, I'll try it out and see if it stops them. --Human icon.png Dantes (talk) 21:10, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

Balance Patch[edit]

Don't really edit Pvp builds in the next 3-4 hours :P Let's watch the ESL and see how the builds and the meta look like. Especially ranger. --Necromancer Icon Color.pngHanz(talk) 15:12, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Yeah I've been keeping my PvP Edit to a minimum. Moved Power Ranger to Trial so it can be looked at later. But for now mostly been updating the Dungeon builds. Not many changes outside of the Ranger Dungeon build.
Hm maybe we could look into the Pve builds and make changes based on this list. --Necromancer Icon Color.pngHanz(talk) 15:36, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
Started that, Engi should be fine Power Grenadier, though we still need to expand usage. Started the new ranger page, Sword/Axe needs more fixes and content. And Archived the old one, Sword/Warhorn. Been focusing on the classes that people don't play otherwise they won't get updated quickly. --Human icon.png Dantes (talk) 15:43, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

EU ToG[edit]

Qualifiers start today. Let's hope they will show better matches than last week's so we can grab some builds :P (previous week's matches were of hotjoin level). --Necromancer Icon Color.pngHanz(talk) 08:24, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Added a variant to the Axe warrior metabuild. What do you think, is it fine there or should it be a new build? --Necromancer Icon Color.pngHanz(talk) 19:17, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
I've always loves Warhorn, does it use different sigils or anything else. It's actually probably better to make it into a separate page the Traits are different enough. Kinda like our two Meditation Guard builds. --Human icon.png Dantes (talk) 19:45, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
Yeah. I will do it soon then. --Necromancer Icon Color.pngHanz(talk) 19:55, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Missing Links[edit]

Hello Dantes, When editing the wikia, I've noticed that some skills/sigils have missing links, with examples being Sigil of Cleansing and Flame Turret's overcharge skill Is there anything I can do to add links? Regards --Martini (talk) 21:17, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Superior Sigil of Cleansing Superior Sigil of Cleansing
Superior Sigil of Cleansing.pngSuperior Sigil of Cleansing
Remove 1 condition when you swap to this weapon while in combat. (Cooldown: 9s)
{{gw2sigil|Superior Sigil of Cleansing}} and
Smoke Screen Smoke Screen
Smoke Screen
Overcharge your flame turret, releasing a smoke screen that blinds nearby foes.
Blind.pngBlind per Pulse (2s): Next outgoing attack misses.
Book.pngNumber of Targets: 5
Duration.pngDuration: 5 seconds
Radius.pngRadius: 240
Combo.pngCombo Field: Smoke
{{gw2skill|Smoke Screen (engineer skill)}} are you using the correct formating. Also if something doesn't have an Icon/Link you are going to upload add the Icon yourself. Or leave it for someone else to do it later while you continue working. Type it out like you normally would then click on the red link, the wiki will tell you how to upload the correct Icon. Don't tell the GW2 wiki admins but we usually steal them from there :P. You can also get them from the game client. Also some skills need some extra for the name because multiple skills share that name
Smoke Screen Smoke Screen
Smoke Screen
Deception. Create a smoke screen that blocks projectiles and blinds foes.
Blind.pngBlindness (1s): Next outgoing attack misses.
Duration.pngSmoke Screen Duration: 7 seconds
Combo.pngCombo Field: Smoke
and Slice. --Human icon.png Dantes (talk) 21:29, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
Looks like Hanz uploaded the Cleansing icon earlier. --Human icon.png Dantes (talk) 21:34, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Merging the Skyhammer build[edit]

How about we mege Engineer - Skyhammer CC Funtime with Engineer - Decap? We already have many identical engineer builds, and the concept of both builds are the same. We could just add the traits as "Skyhammer Variant" and rename the other build to "Decap & Skyhammer" or something like that. Plus we wouldn't have to worry about having a build that only works on 1 single map. --Necromancer Icon Color.pngHanz(talk) 16:12, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

That actually sounds like a good idea. And we should make the Throw Mine on Decap Optional, lots of skills can work in that spot. --Human icon.png Dantes (talk) 16:16, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Power Ranger[edit]

I'm a bit torn between having this build in the Meta section for PvP or not. It's very widespread bit not a thing on ESL and other cups. What do you think? --Necromancer Icon Color.pngHanz(talk) 10:08, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

But it's totally meta in hot joins! xP « Chase ♥ ♥ ♥ » 04:10, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Voting System[edit]

Hey, heads up -- this is the only thing I'm gonna work on for Meta Battle starting today and hoping to finish it by the beginning of March. Hanz was telling me this was really important to you, so I wanted to chat with you and get some ideas on what it is you might want to implement. You can message me here, ig, or on skype :) and I'll try to keep this thread updated with progress « Chase ♥ ♥ ♥ » 12:50, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Super excited! I would keep in mind the build vetting policy I started but didn't finish. Also the old PvX version as well. A whisper would probably be the quickest way to reach me. I've been playing a lot recently but it's mostly been me being a PvE casual. --Human icon.png Dantes (talk) 16:30, 27 January 2015 (UTC)