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Thief - Core P/D Condition

The community gave this build a rating, making it second-tier: Good

Focused on: Condition damage

Designed for: PvP Conquest

Difficulty:
Easy
This build was last updated on May 31, 2024 and is up to date for the June 25, 2024 patch.

Overview

A core condition damage Thief build for PvP, designed to roam the map and quickly overwhelm targets with a wide variety of conditions.


Skill Bar

Pistol/Dagger
Shortbow
Utility


Slot Changes

Utility

Viable choices for the optional slot (or even over Shadow Refuge):

  • Shadow Portal - better map control.
  • Blinding Powder - another stun break and easy stealth / Sneak Attack access.
  • Skale Venom - a bursty option that could also be shared with allies (including pets).
  • Scorpion Wire - adds much needed CC to the build and perfectly sets up melee skills like Shadow Strike or Cloak and Dagger.
  • Prepare Thousand Needles - AoE burst damage that can cover an entire capture point on some maps.
  • Signet of Shadows - passive movement speed boost and the active adds a lot of cover conditions to burst combos. The passive also makes it possible to drop Rune of Lynx or Relic of the Wayfinder and take stronger options for these slots.


Elite

This slot largely depends on personal preferences, every skill is viable to some degree:

  • Basilisk Venom makes it easier to land your burst and can be shared with your allies.
  • Thieves Guild is a bit of a meme option, but if you share Skale Venom with them their combined burst could catch people offguard.


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Specializations

Variants

  • Hidden Thief trades condi cleansing for some defensive conditions, could be an option if you expect Power damage to be the bigger concern during a game.


Equipment

Pistol
Dagger
Sigil
Sigil
Shortbow
Sigil
Sigil
Rune
Amulet
Relic


Equipment Variants

Runes

  • Rune of Lynx - by taking this rune for the passive movement speed you get to drop the current relic for something else, but Lynx has slightly worse stats. Your sustained damage will be lower.
  • Rune of Orr - good stats and the the anti-condition aspect could help in mirror matchups, or against any other condi build in general.


Relics

  • Relic of the Fractal - better burst damage and more condition variety on your Repeater spam, but has a 20s cooldown.
  • Relic of the Demon Queen - the healing reduction could help you wear down the more tanky builds, but doesn't really add more raw damage to the build as the build only has 1 CC skill by default.


Usage

General

  • Share your venom(s) with as many allies as possible, including pets and minions.
  • Use Infiltrator's Arrow to move between capture points. Your job is to roam the map and +1 fights by bursting down targets who have no cleansing / no cooldowns left.


Stealing

  • Steal is going to be used more freely here compared to other builds as it's not an interrupt in this build. Steal applies various cover conditions such as Vulnerability Vulnerability from Even the Odds or Bleeding Bleeding from Deadly Ambush, fitting nicely into your burst combos.


Pistol/Dagger

  • Most of the damage in this build comes from the Shadow Strike Repeater chain and the occasional Sneak Attack. You should spend most of your initiative on these skills.
    • Once you have access to Repeater it's possible to spam this skill 2 times in a row without having to refresh with Shadow Strike.
  • Body Shot is more of a niche skill. It could be useful for rooting targets in place, making it easier to land Shadow Strike, but you should try to do it without Bola Shot to save initiative whenever possible. Another thing you could do is root targets in place to make sure your brust doesn't miss, or that they don't catch up to you while spamming Repeater.
  • Dancing Dagger is okay for some ranged poking vs multiple targets if you can't get in range for Shadow Strike and don't want to switch to bow just yet.
  • Cloak and Dagger provides relatively easy stealth access which could be followed up with Sneak Attack. While this combo does less damage than the skill #3 spam, it costs next to nothing because of Shadow's Rejuvenation and could heal you for quite a significant amount through various Shadow Arts synergies.
  • Using Steal in the middle of Shadow Strike or Cloak and Dagger makes these melee skills easier to land by improving their reach.


Burst combo example

  1. Precast Cloak and Dagger
  2. Steal just before CnD is about to go off
  3. Sneak Attack
  4. Shadow Strike
  5. Repeater x2


Short bow

Utility weapon, secondary set

  • Trick Shot is a bit of a weak filler skill in this build that you can spam when weapon swap is on CD and you're out of initiative.
  • Cluster Bomb being a spammable blast finisher has high value for your team when it comes to blasting fields for AoE Stealth Stealth.
    • Its chain skill Detonate Cluster is a solid source of downed cleave.
  • Disabling Shot (thief short bow) provides access to some evasion in case you're being focused by the enemy team and your defensive skills are on CD. Remains usable even while Immobilize Immobilized, but it's somewhat expensive.
  • Use Choking Gas on downed enemies especially if they are being revived - Poison decreases healing received by 33% which affects resurrecting speed and the initial strike interrupts foes.
  • Infiltrator's Arrow is the #1 skill for moving around the map in general, cuts down on travel time between capture points drastically.


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Ratings

This build has a rating of 4 stars based on 7 votes.
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4 stars
Hanz gave this build 4 stars • May 2024
Decent 1v1 and +1 build that's easy to play, recently Repeater got un-nerfed which was a nice buff too. Can't really hold a node though and has trouble hitting targets with multiple enemies present, nothing special but it works.
5 stars
Eddieknj gave this build 5 stars • October 2023
Huge potential currently. Have been messing around with a TON of new and old thief builds and this one is starting to shine again. Im finding this right up there with d/p with impairing daggers. Id take shadows embrace over hidden thief for much needed condi removal. Id also take d/p secondary set, short bow is no help when you need to stealth reset. Also take the poison immob trait, as 1 bola shot and 1 tormenting dagger from range will apply immob, 2 poison, torment, cripple, and vulnerability. This is incredible condi spread for 2 quick buttons. With one auto attacks it's 6 condis in 3 quick hits. This will bait a lot of players into using their condi removal utilities before you even load them up with the real damage. Needs infiltrators signet for a gap closer, and sometimes scorpion wire (used well this is one of the most clutch abilities in the game) Note: much harder to play and much more vulnerable!! Beginners should stick to d/p daredevil.
5 stars
Snequet gave this build 5 stars • May 2023
High burst damage, fun build, although if you get cc-d you can die easily but you have some cleansing. Bad positioning can be a little punishing.
4 stars
Majki83 gave this build 4 stars • February 2021
O gosh ;) this build is so meme. Very easy to learn very easy to understand very easy to play very easy to become a pro cancer (g3/p1) . Super strong condi burst super mobility many stealth sources.
5 stars
Ace Hardlight gave this build 5 stars • September 2020
This build is pure cancer. People get overwhelmed with condis and I am having much better success with this than with the "Meta" dagger pistol power build! It's also really easy to use.
4 stars
Diegolg20 gave this build 4 stars • May 2020
Decent but if u Miss dul attack u have problems
4 stars
X Zeyrox X gave this build 4 stars • April 2020
I have been testing it and I like the truth, it does good damage and has good mobility

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