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| designed for = open world, open world general
 
| designed for = open world, open world general
 
| focus = condition damage
 
| focus = condition damage
| rating = great
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| rating = good
 
| xpac = eod
 
| xpac = eod
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| difficulty = 2
 
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==Overview==
 
==Overview==
Condi Harbinger is a versatile build for necromancer that shares gear with the condition {{Tooltip|Quickness}} variant for group PvE content and only requires minor tweaks to be able to be played as a full dps build. It provides itself and its subgroup with permanent {{Tooltip|Quickness}} and {{Tooltip|Fury}} as well as a good amount of {{Tooltip|Might}}. It also has great CC capabilities through {{Skill|Vital Draw}}, {{Skill|Voracious Arc}} and {{Skill|Vile Blast}}.
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Condi Harbinger is a fast and mobile build that deals damage through {{Tooltip|Torment}}, {{Tooltip|Bleeding}}, and {{Tooltip|Burning}}. It also provides very high uptime of {{Tooltip|Quickness}}, {{Tooltip|Fury}}, and {{Tooltip|Might}} to itself and nearby allies. It also has great CC capabilities through {{Skill|Vital Draw}}, {{Skill|Voracious Arc}} and {{Skill|Vile Blast}}.
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The main downside is how squishy it is. {{Skill|Harbinger Shroud}} does not replace your health bar unlike {{Skill|Death Shroud}} or {{Skill|Reaper's Shroud}}. On top of that, you have reduced maximum health from your profesion mechanic {{Trait|Dark Disciple}} accumulating Blight. This leaves you very vulnerable to burst damage, but you do have some healing over time from {{Trait|Alchemic Vigor}} and can stay moderatly safe by fighting from range.
  
  
 
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==Skill Bar==
 
==Skill Bar==
 
{{Skill bar
 
{{Skill bar
|profession = necromancer
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| profession = Necromancer
|specialization = harbinger
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| specialization = Harbinger
|weapon1 = Pistol
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| weapon1 = Pistol
|weapon2 = Focus
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| weapon2 = Dagger
|weapon3 = Pistol
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| weapon3 = Scepter
|weapon4 = Dagger
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| weapon4 = Dagger
|healing = Elixir of Promise
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| healing = Elixir of Promise
|utility1 = Elixir of Risk
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| utility1 = Elixir of Anguish
|utility2 = Blood Is Power
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| utility2 = Elixir of Risk
|utility3 = Elixir of Anguish
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| utility3 = Blood Is Power
|elite = Plaguelands
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| elite = Elixir of Ambition
 
}}
 
}}
  
* {{Skill|Epidemic}} can be taken instead of {{Skill|Blood Is Power}} whenever cleave damage is required to kill adds quickly.
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* If you need a stun break and additional condi cleanse, {{Skill|Spectral Walk}} is a good choice that includes both.
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===Weapon variants===
* Focus is used for easy life force generation whenever you do not have enemies dying around you (boss fights without or with only a few adds); for general OW roaming, dagger is the go-to weapon.
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Players with [https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Weaponmaster_Training Weaponmaster Training] with the Secrets of the Obscure expansion should use {{Tooltip|Scepter}} + {{Tooltip|Torch}} in the second weapon set.
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* {{Tooltip|Warhorn}} can be used for some extra crowd control.
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* {{Tooltip|Focus}} - boon removal and more life force generation.
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===Skill variants===
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====Heal skill====
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{{Skill|Elixir of Promise}} provides both damage and healing. You can consider other options:
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* {{Skill|Well of Blood}} provides slightly higher raw healing.
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* {{Skill|Consume Conditions}} is great vs. enemies that inflict conditions.
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====Utility Skills====
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{{Skill|Blood Is Power}} is taken for damage and boon generation and should never be replaced. {{Skill|Elixir of Anguish}} is taken to sustain {{Tooltip|Quickness}} and should never be replaced. {{Skill|Elixir of Risk}} provides boon generation but can be replaced by other alternatives:
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* {{Skill|Epidemic}} is amazing for AoE damage by spreading the conditions on your enemy to other nearby enemies, but useless in single target fights.
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* {{Skill|Spectral Walk}} stun break and condition cleanse.
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* {{Skill|Corrosive Poison Cloud}} - destroys projectiles.
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* {{Skill|Plague Signet}} - amazing in fights with many conditions.
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* {{Skill|Signet of Spite}} - single target damage.
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====Elite skill====
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{{Skill|Elixir of Ambition}} deals massive damage when cast above the Blight threshold.
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* {{Skill|Summon Flesh Golem}} - tanky CC buddy.
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==Specializations==
 
==Specializations==
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* {{trait|Parasitic Contagion}} can be taken for a nice boost to survivability at the cost of some condition damage.
 
* {{trait|Parasitic Contagion}} can be taken for a nice boost to survivability at the cost of some condition damage.
  
===Death Magic===
 
{{Specialization|Death Magic|mid|mid|mid|variant=y}}
 
* Death Magic leads to a vast amount of defense at the cost of damage.
 
* For condi cleanse and transfer, you can replace {{Skill|Plaguelands}} by {{Skill|Summon Flesh Golem}} and take {{trait|Necromantic Corruption}}.
 
* With more minions, take {{trait|Flesh of the Master}} as well.
 
  
 
==Equipment==
 
==Equipment==
 
* Ascended gear and stat infusions are not required; you can use exotic gear with the same stats.
 
* Ascended gear and stat infusions are not required; you can use exotic gear with the same stats.
 
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This build uses the standard raid gear, making it ideal for general PVE.
 
{{PvE equipment
 
{{PvE equipment
 
| weight = Light
 
| weight = Light
 
| stats = Viper
 
| stats = Viper
| rune = Superior Rune of the Nightmare
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| rune = Superior Rune of Tormenting
 
| rune-qt = 6
 
| rune-qt = 6
 
| weapon1 = Pistol
 
| weapon1 = Pistol
| weapon2 = Focus
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| weapon2 = Dagger
| sigil1 = Superior Sigil of Malice
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| sigil1 = Superior Sigil of Torment
| sigil2 = Superior Sigil of Demons
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| sigil2 = Superior Sigil of Bursting
| weapon3 =  
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| weapon3 = Scepter
| weapon4 = Dagger
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| weapon4 =  
| sigil3 =
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| sigil3 = Superior Sigil of Torment
| sigil4 = Superior Sigil of Demons
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| relic = Relic of the Fractal
<!-- Custom stats -->
 
| weapon1 = Ritualist
 
| weapon2 = Ritualist
 
| weapon3 = Ritualist
 
| weapon4 = Ritualist
 
| head = Viper
 
| shoulders = Viper
 
| chest = Ritualist
 
| hands = Viper
 
| legs = Viper
 
| feet = Viper
 
| backpiece = Viper
 
| accessory1 = Viper
 
| accessory2 = Viper
 
| amulet = Ritualist
 
| ring1 = Viper
 
| ring2 = Viper
 
 
}}
 
}}
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* Players with [https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Weaponmaster_Training Weaponmaster Training] with the Secrets of the Obscure expansion should use {{Tooltip|Scepter}} + {{Tooltip|Torch}} in the second weapon set.
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* For relics you can also consider {{Relic|Relic of Akeem}} for AoE damage, or {{Relic|Relic of the Sunless}} if you lack access to expansion relics.
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* Equip the highest tier Jade Bot Core you can afford. The extra vitality will also increase your boon duration due to {{Trait|Twisted Medicine}}.
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* You can consider using a few {{Tooltip|Ritualist stats|Ritualist}} pieces if you're struggling to maintain permanent quickness.
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==Consumables==
 
==Consumables==
'''Food'''
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Budget consumables are acceptable for use in open world.
* Any ascended food is superior to any other food you could use. Steak for power, flatbread for conditions. Budget versions of these foods exist and are acceptable.
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* You should aim to maximize the condition duration on {{tooltip|Bleeding}} and {{tooltip|Torment}}since they are the two largest sources of your damage.
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===DPS===
* {{food|Peppermint Omnomberry Bar}} - farming
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* Prioritize '''Flatbread''' Ascended food.
* {{food|Red-Lentil Saobosa}} - DPS
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* {{Food|Plate of Beef Rendang}} / {{Food|Bowl of Truffle Risotto}}
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* {{Utility|Master Tuning Crystal}} / {{Utility|Tuning Icicle}}
  
'''Utility'''
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===Defense===
* {{Utility|Sharpening Skull}} (and variants) - farming
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* {{Food|Bowl of Orrian Truffle and Meat Stew}}
* {{utility|Tuning Icicle}} - dps
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* {{Food|Oysters with Spicy Sauce}}
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* {{Food|Bowl of Lemongrass Mussel Pasta}}
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===Farming===
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* Prioritize '''Flatbread''' Ascended food.
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* {{Item|Birthday Blaster}} / {{Item|Feast of Delectable Birthday Cake}}
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* {{Food|Peppermint Omnomberry Bar}}
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* {{Utility|Sharpening Skull}} (and variants)
  
  
 
==Usage==
 
==Usage==
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Your {{Skill|Harbinger Shroud}} and Elixirs will accumulate Blight on you due to {{Trait|Dark Disciple}}, reducing your maximum health, but also increasing your damage. This leaves you vulnerable to burst damage, but also provides some healing over time from {{Trait|Alchemic Vigor}}.
 
===Damage===
 
===Damage===
* You can avoid a lot of damage by staying at range; only {{Skill|Devouring Cut}} and {{Skill|Voracious Arc}} require you to be close to the target.
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The general idea is to swap between {{Skill|Harbinger Shroud}} and your weapon set to use all your damage skills. Open fights with Shroud, cast all skills except {{Skill|Vital Draw}}, then exit Shroud.
* Outside of shroud, you can use all skills aside from {{Skill|Spinal Shivers}} on cooldown.
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* You provide {{Tooltip|Quickness}} and {{tooltip|Fury}} periodically while in {{Skill|Harbinger Shroud}}, so make sure to go into shroud as often as possible.
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;Priority
* {{Skill|Blood Is Power}} should be used close to going into {{Skill|Harbinger Shroud}} to transfer the self-applied {{tooltip|Torment}} and {{tooltip|Bleeding}} with the maximum duration through {{trait|Plague Sending}} and avoid them being cleansed in the meantime.
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#Open fights with {{Skill|Harbinger Shroud}} using all skills except {{Skill|Vital Draw}} which should be saved for crowd control.
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#Elixirs
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#Weapon skills
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#{{Skill|Blood Is Power}} {{to}} {{Skill|Deathly Swarm}} or {{Trait|Plague Sending}}
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* {{Skill|Elixir of Ambition}} should only be used when above 10 Blight to massively increase its damage. Use your other Elixirs off cooldown.
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* You can avoid a lot of damage by staying at range and skipping {{Skill|Devouring Cut}} and {{Skill|Voracious Arc}}.
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* Your Shroud auto attacks are much stronger than your weapon auto attacks, moreso thanks to {{Trait|Dhuumfire}}.
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* Transfer the self-inflicted conditions of {{Skill|Blood Is Power}} with {{Skill|Deathly Swarm}} or by entering Shroud to trigger {{Trait|Plague Sending}}.
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===Boons===
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You provide {{Tooltip|Quickness}} and {{tooltip|Fury}} periodically while in {{Skill|Harbinger Shroud}}, so don't delay it too much. {{Skill|Elixir of Anguish}} also provides quickness.
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You probably will not be able to maintain permanent quickness if you don't have {{Tooltip|Alacrity}} from external sources and a high tier Jade Bot Core, which increases vitality and thus concentration due to {{Trait|Twisted Medicine}}. You can consider using one or two {{Tooltip|Ritualist stats|Ritualist}} trinkets to help maintain quickness.
  
 
===Survivability===
 
===Survivability===
 
* {{Skill|Elixir of Promise}} is your main source of healing, so use it whenever you need it. Make sure to throw it close to yourself to apply the stacks of Blight to yourself.
 
* {{Skill|Elixir of Promise}} is your main source of healing, so use it whenever you need it. Make sure to throw it close to yourself to apply the stacks of Blight to yourself.
 
* You heal passively for every stack of Blight through {{trait|Alchemic Vigor}}, so try to have many stacks on you. If you want to maintain 20-25 stacks at the cost of some damage, skip {{Skill|Devouring Cut}} and {{Skill|Voracious Arc}} because they are the main sources of Blight consumption.
 
* You heal passively for every stack of Blight through {{trait|Alchemic Vigor}}, so try to have many stacks on you. If you want to maintain 20-25 stacks at the cost of some damage, skip {{Skill|Devouring Cut}} and {{Skill|Voracious Arc}} because they are the main sources of Blight consumption.
* For harder encounters, swapping to Death Magic instead of Soul Reaping is the most convenient and easy-going option for additional surviability.
 
  
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===Crowd control===
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* {{Skill|Vile Blast}}
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* {{Skill|Voracious Arc}}
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* {{Skill|Vital Draw}}
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== External links ==
 
More information on the general usage and rotation is provided in the video down below:
 
More information on the general usage and rotation is provided in the video down below:
 
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[https://youtu.be/AN8UNWhYbuI Guide Video (as of May 2022)]
[https://youtu.be/AN8UNWhYbuI Rotation Guide Video (as of May 2022)]
 

Latest revision as of 17:05, 15 September 2024

The community gave this build a rating, making it second-tier: Good

Focused on: Condition damage

Designed for: Open World and Open World General

Expansions required: End of Dragons builds

Difficulty:
Normal
This build was last updated on September 15, 2024 and is up to date for the October 8, 2024 patch.

Overview

Condi Harbinger is a fast and mobile build that deals damage through Torment Torment, Bleeding Bleeding, and Burning Burning. It also provides very high uptime of Quickness Quickness, Fury Fury, and Might Might to itself and nearby allies. It also has great CC capabilities through Vital Draw, Voracious Arc and Vile Blast.

The main downside is how squishy it is. Harbinger Shroud does not replace your health bar unlike Death Shroud or Reaper's Shroud. On top of that, you have reduced maximum health from your profesion mechanic Dark Disciple accumulating Blight. This leaves you very vulnerable to burst damage, but you do have some healing over time from Alchemic Vigor and can stay moderatly safe by fighting from range.


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Skill Bar

Pistol/Dagger
Scepter/Dagger
Utility


Weapon variants

Players with Weaponmaster Training with the Secrets of the Obscure expansion should use Scepter Scepter + Torch Torch in the second weapon set.

  • Warhorn Warhorn can be used for some extra crowd control.
  • Focus Focus - boon removal and more life force generation.

Skill variants

Heal skill

Elixir of Promise provides both damage and healing. You can consider other options:

  • Well of Blood provides slightly higher raw healing.
  • Consume Conditions is great vs. enemies that inflict conditions.

Utility Skills

Blood Is Power is taken for damage and boon generation and should never be replaced. Elixir of Anguish is taken to sustain Quickness Quickness and should never be replaced. Elixir of Risk provides boon generation but can be replaced by other alternatives:

  • Epidemic is amazing for AoE damage by spreading the conditions on your enemy to other nearby enemies, but useless in single target fights.
  • Spectral Walk stun break and condition cleanse.
  • Corrosive Poison Cloud - destroys projectiles.
  • Plague Signet - amazing in fights with many conditions.
  • Signet of Spite - single target damage.

Elite skill

Elixir of Ambition deals massive damage when cast above the Blight threshold.

  • Summon Flesh Golem - tanky CC buddy.


Specializations

  • Parasitic Contagion can be taken for a nice boost to survivability at the cost of some condition damage.


Equipment

  • Ascended gear and stat infusions are not required; you can use exotic gear with the same stats.

This build uses the standard raid gear, making it ideal for general PVE.

Head
Viper
Shoulders
Viper
Chest
Viper
Hands
Viper
Legs
Viper
Feet
Viper
Backpiece
Viper
Accessory
Viper
Accessory
Viper
Amulet
Viper
Ring
Viper
Ring
Viper
Pistol
Viper
Dagger
Viper
Sigil
Sigil
Scepter
Viper
Sigil
Rune
x6


Relic
  • Players with Weaponmaster Training with the Secrets of the Obscure expansion should use Scepter Scepter + Torch Torch in the second weapon set.
  • For relics you can also consider Relic of Akeem for AoE damage, or Relic of the Sunless if you lack access to expansion relics.
  • Equip the highest tier Jade Bot Core you can afford. The extra vitality will also increase your boon duration due to Twisted Medicine.
  • You can consider using a few Ritualist Ritualist pieces if you're struggling to maintain permanent quickness.


Consumables

Budget consumables are acceptable for use in open world.

DPS

  • Prioritize Flatbread Ascended food.
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Defense

Farming

  • Prioritize Flatbread Ascended food.
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  • (and variants)


Usage

Your Harbinger Shroud and Elixirs will accumulate Blight on you due to Dark Disciple, reducing your maximum health, but also increasing your damage. This leaves you vulnerable to burst damage, but also provides some healing over time from Alchemic Vigor.

Damage

The general idea is to swap between Harbinger Shroud and your weapon set to use all your damage skills. Open fights with Shroud, cast all skills except Vital Draw, then exit Shroud.

Priority
  1. Open fights with Harbinger Shroud using all skills except Vital Draw which should be saved for crowd control.
  2. Elixirs
  3. Weapon skills
  4. Blood Is Power Deathly Swarm or Plague Sending
  • Elixir of Ambition should only be used when above 10 Blight to massively increase its damage. Use your other Elixirs off cooldown.
  • You can avoid a lot of damage by staying at range and skipping Devouring Cut and Voracious Arc.
  • Your Shroud auto attacks are much stronger than your weapon auto attacks, moreso thanks to Dhuumfire.
  • Transfer the self-inflicted conditions of Blood Is Power with Deathly Swarm or by entering Shroud to trigger Plague Sending.

Boons

You provide Quickness Quickness and Fury Fury periodically while in Harbinger Shroud, so don't delay it too much. Elixir of Anguish also provides quickness.

You probably will not be able to maintain permanent quickness if you don't have Alacrity Alacrity from external sources and a high tier Jade Bot Core, which increases vitality and thus concentration due to Twisted Medicine. You can consider using one or two Ritualist Ritualist trinkets to help maintain quickness.

Survivability

  • Elixir of Promise is your main source of healing, so use it whenever you need it. Make sure to throw it close to yourself to apply the stacks of Blight to yourself.
  • You heal passively for every stack of Blight through Alchemic Vigor, so try to have many stacks on you. If you want to maintain 20-25 stacks at the cost of some damage, skip Devouring Cut and Voracious Arc because they are the main sources of Blight consumption.

Crowd control

  • Vile Blast
  • Voracious Arc
  • Vital Draw


External links

More information on the general usage and rotation is provided in the video down below: Guide Video (as of May 2022)


Ratings

This build has a rating of 4 stars based on 2 votes.
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4 stars
Warming Hearth gave this build 4 stars • April 2024
Decent damage, mobility, and boon generation are nice, your allies will appreciate the quickness. But you're more fragile than other necro builds for very little tradeoff, so there's not much reason to play this over condi scourge or power reaper.
4 stars
IbnBattuta gave this build 4 stars • September 2022
TBH, if there is 4.5 rating, I'd give to this build but that didn't happen cause IMO it has 2 problems, first, it depend on expensive runes and sigils which if someone tried this build they wouldn't run it as intended to explore its full potential, as for the 2nd reason, it's not as effective as other builds in fighting mobs in great numbers such as when in HoT or some PoF maps, Power Reaper or Barrier Scourge are better in dealing with these situations but when it comes to fighting bosses such as fractal and strike bosses in a group, your Harbinger build is the superior choice.

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