Weaver - Fire Weaver
The community gave this build a rating, making it second-tier: Good
Focused on: Condition damage and Sustain
Designed for: PvP Conquest
Difficulty:
Normal
This build was last updated on September 14, 2023 and is up to date for the August 20, 2024 patch.
Overview
A condition damage-based Weaver build for PvP with plenty of burst damage. Primarily serves as a duelist.
Skill Bar
Sword/Focus
Utility
Slot Changes
Utility
- over - Armor is a better defensive skill in general but it's on a longer CD. It's up to you to decide what's more important to you, a stronger defensive or more frequent access to a stun break.
- over - slightly longer CD for a stronger defensive skill, but still lower recharge time than that of Armor of Earth.
- over - great defensive tool if you're fine with sacrificing some mobility. While Stone Resonance could help you stay in the fight longer, ultimately Lightning Flash's versatility and ability to disengage if you're in serious trouble makes LF the more popular utility.
- over - a versatile conjure with CC, barrier, blocking and even an invulnerability. Could serve as a time out button while under pressure and waiting for CDs to come back up. Take on Fire.
Stance variant
It's possible to play the build with 3 utility stances, focusing on Barrier stacking. Take:
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Specializations
Variants
- is also a viable option in case you'd need more condition removal.
Equipment
Sword
Focus
Sigil
Sigil
Rune
Amulet
Relic
Equipment Variants
Sigils
- or over - if you can afford to give up condition removal for more damage.
Relics
- - better cleansing.
Runes
- - higher damage, lower sustain against condition specs.
- - better boon duration.
Usage
Elite specialization basics
- Weaver allows the Elementalist to attune to 2 elements at the same time, and skills 1-5 are decided based on both. Let's call them primary and secondary attunements.
- If you swap to ⇒ fire + water for example is . then fire becomes your primary attunement and weapon skills 1-2 will be fire skills. Afterwards if you switch to for example then water is now your primary attunement and fire's moved to secondary - now skills 1-2 are water and 4-5 are fire. Skill 3 is a dual skill influenced by both active attunements
- The order of the attunements doesn't matter here, water primary with fire secondary has the same dual attack as fire primary and water secondary. Attuning to the same element twice has its own dual skill.
General
- Unless you either have a high amount of Confusion on you, or you're already at maximum health, you should always be casting something (autoattacks will do too). This is to get the most out of this signet's passive.
should seldom be touched, as the passive is extremely valuable. Note that several trait procs also count as skill activations and will benefit from the passive of this signet.
- Cycle Fire ⇒ Air ⇒ Fire ⇒ Air to maintain Swiftness while roaming between capture points.
- Dual attuning (having the same primary and secondary element) in general isn't recommended, but there are a few niche uses for it. One example would be attuning to Fire twice in order to squeeze more condition cleansing out of it in a limited time frame.
- Might stacking happens passively through . It's yet another reason for spamming autoattacks as much as possible when in combat (and attuned to Fire) even if you're not in range.
Damage
- This build is all about stacking Burning.
- has the highest raw damage output.
- Vulnerability stacking, but this condition's effectivenes severely depends on how pressured your target already is. If the target doesn't have any damaging conditions and isn't being focused by your team, Vulnerability doesn't do much, in that case Earth is superior. is also a good choice because of the
- Chill is one of Elementalist's greatest weaknesses. does not directly help with damage, but the snare and CD increase can still be valuable - especially in mirror matchups, as
can instantly add burst to any attack sequence:
- As for weapon skills, your heavy hitters are , , and . The latter two also pulse damage each second for a period of time, making them synergize well with .
- doesn't do much in duels because it's so easy to avoid just by not stepping on it, but it's a rather decent skill for downed cleave if dropped directly below the target.
Burst combo examples
- Swap to
primary, secondary
- Swap to
primary, secondary
Sustain and how to dealing with conditions
- The trait
- Swapping to applies , cleansing one condition. Swapping to another attunement from fire gives you access to which cleanses another 2 conditions by detonating the aura.
- can be combo'd by using a leap finisher such as or in a .
provides a steady stream of cleansing:
- When auras no longer suffice is what you should use. This is the best anti-condition skill in the build, instantly removing 3 conditions upon being used.
- The trait grants a steady stream of barriers. Dodging on Water and Earth attunements has even more defensive benefits thanks to - the first dodge after attuning to Water acts as an AoE heal / cleanse while the first dodge on Earth is a blast finisher which can be combo'd into the field left behind by .
- Most of the sustain comes from combining
- The order doesn't always matter. Going from Earth to Water lets you blast immediately with for extra healing whilst cleansing conditions and reflecting projectiles. Going from Water to Earth allows for blasting Riptide's water field through an empowered dodge + .
- Skill #2 of both attunements has an evade frame in case you'd want to avoid incoming damage.
- Attuning to Earth serves as an instant source of AoE Protection application which is quite handy especially if you're CC'd and can't cast anything else.
with :
- is the best defensive skill in the build, making you immortal for its duration (except for fall damage).
Basic healing combo
- Dodge in to proc the relevant effect of .
- Use .
- Swap to ⇒ Water ⇒ Earth and do both. for or use if you were in Earth prior to switching to Water. Use them in the field created by Riptide. You could also go Earth
- Swap to for the + combo.
- for the barrier.
- Optional: when you swap out of Fire, use if cleansing is needed.
Top Streamers
- Twitch: Blamthrax
- Twitch: Grimjack
Related Builds
- Starfire Roamer - WvW roaming version.
Ratings
Not the best but also not the worst, it's managed to hang on to viability (at least for ranked play) for quite some time now. I'm seeing a small surge in playrates recently and it can still be an asset to the team, I just think that Cata is slightly better at everything this does. Also Hammer Weaver is probably better at least against Power specs, but this has an easier time vs condi.
Build is still okay, but it’s damage mostly comes from lingering AoE’s and with all the mobility in the current meta classes, it’s damage falls off a little, still workable though if you are good at using gale.
Strong, versatile, but hard to play / master for not even the best results
only weaver can kill weaver cancer side build best of best
Both durable and threatening at the same time, it is the best duelist build around that can win most 1v1s with ease and even stall in 1vX situations.
I think 4 stars is probably quite fair. Strong dueling potential, good mobility and can survive outnumbered for a decent amount of time. Not every duel is favourable but you'll be able to win the majority if you're good enough.
Fire weaver used be the OP build before Feb 20 patch. But after that all weavers were murdered. Fire weaver is only half as strong and almost unplayable. Very weak side noder. Tempests and D/F Lightning rod weaver are the only playable else now
Still better weaver, high dps, good sustain, nice aoe damage to help the party on points. I prefer it to the tanky mender sword (water trait). Very funny to play.
the only notable weakness this build has is the lack of mobility that other side noders possess otherwise, making map rotations and chasing down ranged targets somewhat difficult. Putting those aside tho, and u get a package that not only offers, but excels at everything a duelist would want: high consistent dmg w/ reliable cleave, good condi cleanse, boons for days, stable heals and barriers on top of multiple burst heals thru water field, stun break utilities that comes w/ either good evade frames or even more dmg,and an instant cast invulnerability that doesn't hinder your other actions. To top it all off, u have a an elite that serves as , essentially, a steroid that directly boosts your dmg, boon duration, movement speed, and toughness; making this build one of the best for defending on a side node.
My favorite build in the game, and as a duelist it is such an optimal role. It has tools to deal with every class coming into your point, your rotating abilities are OK if you continuously attune to Air and then to any other element (I suggest earth for the protection buff) then back to Air for the swiftness uptime, it can assist in team fights even though its not the best at it. Overall, when a good weaver gets their hands on this build, it can get scary and in a hurry.
This build has all it needs to be truly good. It belongs in Meta section - it's definitely above just "great" and it's one of the best options you can run for it's intended role.
It's negligibly slower at rotations due to not having movement skills/teleports it can use without target (though it still has a lot of Swiftness for that), but makes up for it with robust defensive capabilities, plain terrifying burst it can do, as well as great passive pressure.
It is capable of winning competing role matchups and holds it's own very well, and if current balance notes are anything to go by - it's going to become even stronger, as Warrior will lose Rampage damage and Holo - sustain and stab. However, currently care must be taken when facing core warriors running Tactics - Warrior's Cunning hurts. Really bad (but it will be fixed soon, too).
I have no trouble surviving with this build, thanks to the numerous defense skills provided by the focus, as well as the condi cleanse provided by fire auras, which are plentyful and on low cooldowns. And it deals a lot of damage.
Extremely strong build. Easily the best Ele build out there right now. I'm surprised more people aren't running this.
Very good build. I suggest also a variation with celestial amulet, flame legion and element of rage trait for hybrid damage.
A really strong build, usually top healing+dmg. Can make other team waste their time on you chasing you.
This is probably the best Ele build that currently exists in the game. While it's not quite as high sustain as menders sword, it makes up for it by actually having damage that your opponents must watch out for. 'Cleansing Fire' can replace the glyph if you are up against a heavy condi team making for a solid adaptable build.
This is actually a potent build that mixes some power with condition damage while being strong against a plethora of builds. It does struggle against scourge (and sometimes core/reaper) at times, however this may just be an alternative to the mender's build if not better! More damage is always welcome.
Probably the best build for weaver, i watched phantaram play the build and tried it myself both extreme fire damage with the help of Sage Amulet it gives 1k power for raw damage with Lava Skin and Shearing Edge. the build overall gives the consistent damage on down foes. and i consider if you want more condition damage then power you should go with Rune of Balthazar it gives more condition damage and 10% more HP(Good with the 500 Vitality from Amulet).
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