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| profession = elementalist
 
| profession = elementalist
 
| specialization = weaver
 
| specialization = weaver
| designed for = open world, open world general, open world bruiser, open world dps
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| designed for = open world, open world general
 
| focus = condition damage
 
| focus = condition damage
 
| rating = great
 
| rating = great
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==Overview==
 
==Overview==
A very powerful condition-based weaver build for open world. This build offers very high DPS and defense with an active, skill-based playstyle. Condition Weaver can be very difficult to master, but is one of the strongest options for solo play.  
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A condition focused weaver build for both group and solo play in open world.
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==Template Code==
 
==Template Code==
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==Skill Bar==
 
==Skill Bar==
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|specialization = weaver
 
|specialization = weaver
 
|weapon1 = Scepter
 
|weapon1 = Scepter
|weapon2 = Focus
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|weapon2 = Warhorn
|weapon3 =  
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|weapon3 = Staff
 
|weapon4 =  
 
|weapon4 =  
 
|healing = Signet of Restoration
 
|healing = Signet of Restoration
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|utility2 = Primordial Stance
 
|utility2 = Primordial Stance
 
|utility3 = Signet of Fire
 
|utility3 = Signet of Fire
|elite = Weave Self
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|elite = Glyph of Elementals
 
}}
 
}}
 
  
 
====Weapon Variants====
 
====Weapon Variants====
This build can work with all of the weapons available to Weaver with a similar damage rotation for each. Note that {{Skill|Primordial Stance}} and {{Trait|Sunspot}} require you to be in close range to deal damage.
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* {{Tooltip|Sword}} - more evades, but melee-only; replaces {{Tooltip|Scepter}}
* Sword: Strong melee burst and more defensive options for solo play, good for brawling against tougher enemies when sustain and evasion are needed.
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* {{Tooltip|Dagger|Mainhand Dagger}} - very good cleave DPS, but melee-only; replaces {{Tooltip|Scepter}}
* Main-hand Dagger: Melee option with heavy cleave but more challenging damage rotation and you will be constantly dashing around.
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* {{Tooltip|Pistol}} - strong alternative to {{Tooltip|Scepter}} (requires Weaponmaster).
* Off-hand Dagger: Less defensive utility and single target damage than focus but good cleave and mobility.
 
* Staff: Long range cleave weapon with high AoE damage potential but can be somewhat awkward to use.
 
  
 
====Skill Variants====
 
====Skill Variants====
'''Healing'''
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When replacing utilities, do not replace {{Skill|Signet of Fire}} or {{Skill|Primordial Stance}}.
 
* {{Skill|Glyph of Elemental Harmony}} - burst healing
 
* {{Skill|Glyph of Elemental Harmony}} - burst healing
 
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* {{Skill|Signet of Earth}} - great defensive/offensive option
'''Utility'''
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* {{Skill|Arcane Shield}} - strong defensive cooldown + stunbreak
 
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* {{Skill|Glyph of Storms}} - good for AOE damage or AOE blind
Glyph of Elemental Power can be replaced by:
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* {{Skill|Cleansing Fire}} - great condition cleanse
* {{Skill|Stone Resonance}} - stability and huge barrier.
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* {{Skill|Lightning Flash}} - mobility
* {{Skill|Twist of Fate}} - stunbreak with 2 charges and extra evasion.
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* {{Skill|Weave Self}} - alternative to {{Skill|Glyph of Elementals}}
* {{Skill|Glyph of Storms}} - AoE burst damage from {{Skill|Firestorm (Glyph of Storms)}} or pulsing blind with {{Skill|Sandstorm}} and a replacement for {{Skill|Primordial Stance}} if playing purely at range.
 
* {{Skill|Glyph of Lesser Elementals}} - summons multiple weak elementals. Can be awkward to use due to setup delay and the summons disappearing upon mounting up or entering water. Fire elemental deals good burning damage, while Water and Earth are moderately tanky.
 
* {{Skill|Lightning Flash}} - mobility.
 
* {{Skill|Signet of Air}} - low CD stunbreak that also passively improves movement speed.
 
 
 
'''Elite'''
 
* {{Skill|Glyph of Elementals}} - sacrifices the very large burst damage increase from Weave Self in exchange for a pet. The Flame elemental provides high DPS (be sure to use the command skill on CD where possible) while Water and Earth give you a reliable front line.
 
 
 
  
 
==Specializations==
 
==Specializations==
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{{Specialization|Earth|mid|top|mid}}
 
{{Specialization|Earth|mid|top|mid}}
 
{{Specialization|Weaver|bot|top|top}}
 
{{Specialization|Weaver|bot|top|top}}
 
 
====Trait Variants====
 
* {{Trait|Pyromancer's Puissance}} - extra might generation when solo (although some of this might is lost when you leave fire).
 
* {{Trait|Bolstered Elements}} and/or {{Trait|Invigorating Strikes}} - more barrier but less damage.
 
 
 
'''Arcane'''
 
{{Specialization|Arcane|mid|bot|top|variant=y}}
 
 
* The Arcane specialisation can be taken when soloing instead of Earth to improve sustain and self sufficiency
 
** Generally, Earth performs better in groups and arcane is stronger when solo.
 
** Be aware that signets no longer retain their passives when using this specialisation to replace Earth.
 
 
  
 
==Equipment==
 
==Equipment==
* Ascended gear is not required for Open world, Exotic is fine
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Ascended gear is not required for Open world.
* The Open World equipment loadouts listed are more like guidelines, feel free to experiment with different combinations
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====Standard Equipment====
 
 
 
 
====Default DPS====
 
 
 
This option uses gear similar to that of [[Build:Weaver_-_Condi_DPS]]. This makes it a great option for general PVE.  
 
 
 
 
{{PvE equipment
 
{{PvE equipment
 
| weight = Light
 
| weight = Light
 
| stats = Viper
 
| stats = Viper
| rune = Superior Rune of the Elementalist
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| rune = Superior Rune of the Trapper
 
| rune-qt = 6
 
| rune-qt = 6
 
| weapon1 = Scepter
 
| weapon1 = Scepter
| weapon2 = Focus
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| weapon2 = Warhorn
| sigil1 = Superior Sigil of Geomancy
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| sigil1 = Superior Sigil of Bursting
| sigil2 = Superior Sigil of Earth
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| sigil2 = Superior Sigil of Strength
| weapon3 =  
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| weapon3 = Staff
 
| weapon4 =  
 
| weapon4 =  
| sigil3 =  
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| sigil3 = Superior Sigil of Frenzy
| sigil4 =  
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| sigil4 = Superior Sigil of Corruption
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| relic = Relic of the Fractal
 
}}
 
}}
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* The only good alternative DPS relic is {{Relic|Relic of the Aristocracy}}
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* For defense, ensure you are using a Jade Core and consider some defensive food, like {{Food|Bowl of Orrian Truffle and Meat Stew}}. If necessary, some {{Tooltip|Celestial}} or {{Tooltip|Trailblazer}} pieces can make a big difference. Defensive relics like {{Relic|Relic of Evasion}}, {{Relic|Relic of the Adventurer}}, and {{Relic|Relic of the Zephyrite}} are decent options as well.
  
 
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===Budget Equipment===
====Solo Luxury====
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This set is incredibly cheap and provides very high HP, but is lower DPS. If using this variant, place much heavier priority on {{Skill|Fire Attunement}}
 
 
A more defensive option for open world play providing a good mix of offensive stats, improved defense, sustain and boon uptime
 
 
 
 
{{PvE equipment
 
{{PvE equipment
 
| weight = Light
 
| weight = Light
| stats = Celestial
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| stats = Carrion
| rune = Superior Rune of the Elementalist
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| rune = Superior Rune of Balthazar
 
| rune-qt = 6
 
| rune-qt = 6
 
| weapon1 = Scepter
 
| weapon1 = Scepter
| weapon2 = Focus
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| weapon2 = Warhorn
| sigil1 = Superior Sigil of Geomancy
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| sigil1 = Superior Sigil of Corruption
| sigil2 = Superior Sigil of Strength
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| sigil2 = Superior Sigil of Smoldering
| weapon3 =  
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| weapon3 = Staff
 
| weapon4 =  
 
| weapon4 =  
| sigil3 =  
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| sigil3 = Superior Sigil of Frenzy
| sigil4 =  
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| sigil4 = Superior Sigil of Smoldering
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| relic = Relic of the Fractal
 
}}
 
}}
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* The only good alternative DPS relic is {{Relic|Relic of the Aristocracy}}
  
 
====Other Gear Variants====
 
'''Stats'''
 
* {{Tooltip|Dire}} - a cost effective defensive set. Swap runes to {{Rune|Superior Rune of Balthazar}}
 
* {{Tooltip|Trailblazer}} - an alternative luxury DPS set which trades about 15-20% DPS for +300% effective HP through vitality and toughness for a massive boost to your survivality.
 
 
 
'''Runes'''
 
* {{Rune|Superior Rune of the Undead}} - Good mix of defence and damage on toughness stats like  {{Tooltip|Trailblazer}} or {{Tooltip|Celestial}}.
 
* {{Rune|Superior Rune of Balthazar}} - Damage rune for gear sets without expertise.
 
 
'''Sigils'''
 
* {{Sigil|Superior Sigil of Cleansing}} - more condition cleanse.
 
* {{Sigil|Superior Sigil of Energy}} - extra dodges, great Synergy with {{Trait|Evasive Arcana}} and {{Trait|Invigorating Strikes}}.
 
* {{Sigil|Superior Sigil of Strength}} - improved {{Tooltip|Might}} generation for longer fights.                                                               
 
 
 
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==Consumables==
 
==Consumables==
 
Budget consumables are acceptable for use in open world.
 
Budget consumables are acceptable for use in open world.
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==Usage==
 
==Usage==
This build primarily relies on {{Skill|Fire Attunement}} and {{Skill|Earth Attunement}}. It is not particularly difficult to play, but has a lot of options to respond to different situations and requires a bit of game knowledge to take advantage of.
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===Damage===
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* Focus primarily on {{Skill|Fire Attunement}} and {{Skill|Earth Attunement}}.  
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* {{Skill|Air Attunement}} can be used to apply {{Tooltip|Vulnerability}}.
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* Double Attune to elements to proc {{Trait|Elements of Rage}}
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* Constantly swap elements to proc {{Trait|Weaver's Prowess}}
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* Use {{Skill|Primordial Stance}}, {{Skill|Signet of Fire}}, and {{Skill|Glyph of Elemental Power}} off cooldown.
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* Summon {{Skill|Glyph of Elementals}} in Fire and activate its skill off cooldown.
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====Loop Priorities====
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* There are many viable loop patterns to use for weaver.
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* The general idea is to focus on Fire-Fire as the "default". From there, loop into either Earth or Air, alternating between the two after each Fire-Fire.
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* A suggested example is as follows:
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# {{Skill|Fire Attunement}} / {{Skill|Air Attunement}}
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# Start combat with {{Skill|Lightning Orb}}
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# {{Skill|Fire Attunement}} / {{Skill|Fire Attunement}} <-- Loop starts here
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# {{Skill|Earth Attunement}} / {{Skill|Fire Attunement}}
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# {{Skill|Fire Attunement}} / {{Skill|Earth Attunement}}
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# {{Skill|Fire Attunement}} / {{Skill|Fire Attunement}}
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# {{Skill|Air Attunement}} / {{Skill|Fire Attunement}}
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# {{Skill|Fire Attunement}} / {{Skill|Air Attunement}}
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# Repeat the loop
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# Quick Text Version: open with f/a to get in combat -> f/f -> e/f -> f/e -> f/f -> a/f -> f/a -> f/f (repeat)
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# Your attunement presses will look like this: Fire(Opener)-Earth-Fire-Fire-Air-Fire-Fire
  
====Damage====
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This can appear complex, but with only a few minutes of practice the loop becomes very rhythmic and most players will find it easy to follow.
* Generally for DPS you should be rotating through the following Attunement loop:
 
# {{Skill|Fire Attunement}}
 
# {{Skill|Fire Attunement}}
 
# {{Skill|Earth Attunement}}
 
* Spam all of your fire and earth skills as they are available.
 
* You can combine {{Skill|Lava Skin}}, {{Skill|Glyph of Elemental Power}}, and {{Skill|Primordial Stance}} with {{Skill|Obsidian Flesh}} for a large burst of damage while you are invulnerable.
 
* For a more detailed rotation breakdown, see the similar endgame build guide: [[Build:Weaver_-_Condi_DPS]]
 
  
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====Fire Priority====
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# {{Skill|Wildfire}}
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# {{Skill|Dragon's Tooth}}
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# {{Skill|Phoenix}}
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# {{Skill|Heat Sync}}
  
====Utilities====
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====Air Priority====
Primordial Stance and Glyph of Elemental Power change drastically depending on your current attunement, and its important to consider what attunement is best to use them in
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# {{Skill|Lightning Orb}}
* {{Skill|Primordial Stance}} considers the element on your mainhand and the element on your offhand to determine what condition to pulse, and updates every second. As such, for the highest damage, use it right before double attuning to Earth for high {{Tooltip|Bleeding}} damage, or in Air for {{Tooltip|Vulnerability}}.
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# {{Skill|Lightning Strike}}
* {{Skill|Glyph of Elemental Power}} changes its effect depending on your mainhand attunement, and is best used in Air for {{Tooltip|Vulnerability}} or in Fire for high {{Tooltip|Burning}} damage.
 
* {{Skill|Signet of Fire}} is your highest damage skill, spam it off cooldown, even when not using {{Trait|Written in Stone}}.
 
  
====Defense====
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====Earth Priority====
'''Mitigation'''
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# {{Skill|Fracturing Strike}}
* {{Skill|Magnetic Wave}}, {{Skill|Swirling Winds}} - projectile hate.
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# {{Skill|Dust Storm}}
* {{Skill|Obsidian Flesh}} - invulnerability.
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# {{Skill|Rock Barrier}} {{to}} {{Skill|Hurl}}
* Using a Dual Attack gives {{Tooltip|Vigor}}, and dodging gives barrier, thanks to {{Trait|Invigorating Strikes}}.
 
* (Sword only) {{Skill|Riptide}} and {{Skill|Earthen Vortex}} both make you evade for 1 second.
 
  
'''Sustain'''
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===Defense===
* {{Skill|Signet of Restoration}} heals you for every single skill you cast.
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* {{Skill|Glyph of Elementals}} - Earth and Water are strong tank pets
* (Sword only) {{Skill|Riptide}} creates a water field where you can use your combo finishers to heal, such as {{Skill|Polaric Leap}}, {{Skill|Magnetic Wave}}, {{Skill|Earthen Vortex}}, {{Skill|Flame Uprising}}.
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* {{Skill|Signet of Restoration}} - passive heal
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* {{Skill|Sand Squall}} - reflect projectiles
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* {{Skill|Dust Storm}} - aoe {{Tooltip|Blind}}
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* {{Skill|Rock Barrier}} - barrier + toughness
  
 
====Crowd Control====
 
====Crowd Control====
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* {{Skill|Gale Strike}}
 
* {{Skill|Gale Strike}}
 
* {{Skill|Weave Self}} {{to}} {{Skill|Tailored Victory}}
 
* {{Skill|Weave Self}} {{to}} {{Skill|Tailored Victory}}
 
 
==Video Examples==
 
* Video guide by renowned elementalist player Roul: [https://youtu.be/PSIZTD_CkGo Gw2: Elementalist Build Guide for Open World, Fractals and Dungeons]
 
 
The following examples were provided courtesy of Hardcore Casual on Youtube. Videos are listed with permission.
 
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skIKq49nyaU Fire Weaver vs Champion Forged Lieutenant Bounty]
 
** This is a great example of how powerful {{Sigil|Superior Sigil of Energy}} can be, and demonstrates the full kit of condi weaver. Note how often {{Trait|Evasive Arcana}} comes into play here.
 
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiTr0iLxj1Y Fire Weaver vs Champion Avatar of Balthazar]
 
** This is one of the hardest hero points in the game due to the insane incoming damage and one-shot mechanic. In this video, they use a variant similar to the heal variant listed above along with {{Food|Bowl of Fire Meat Chili}} to reach 100% burn duration.
 
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCSJTN04NbE Fire Weaver Positioning]
 
** A good example of how to abuse weaver's many evades and positioning for proper blast and field usage.
 
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfqS2KqM9-8 Fire Weaver vs VB Boss Trio]
 
** Super impressive clip that demonstrates how much of a difference a few trait and skill swaps can make. This variant uses the power of weaver stances to avoid damage and CC.
 
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2C1NnjugMk Condi Weaver vs Champion Avatar of Balthazer 2: No dodges!]
 
** This is a super impressive example of the type of DPS that condi weaver can output.
 
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wD9Kdsr2O4 Bounty Solo: Cele Weaver vs Forged Maverick]
 

Latest revision as of 17:55, 6 April 2024

The community gave this build a rating, making it top-tier: Great

Focused on: Condition damage

Designed for: Open World and Open World General

Expansions required: Path of Fire Builds

Difficulty:
Hard
This build was last updated on April 06, 2024 and is up to date for the October 8, 2024 patch.

Overview

A condition focused weaver build for both group and solo play in open world.


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Skill Bar

Scepter/Warhorn
Staff
Utility

Weapon Variants

Skill Variants

When replacing utilities, do not replace Signet of Fire or Primordial Stance.

  • Glyph of Elemental Harmony - burst healing
  • Signet of Earth - great defensive/offensive option
  • Arcane Shield - strong defensive cooldown + stunbreak
  • Glyph of Storms - good for AOE damage or AOE blind
  • Cleansing Fire - great condition cleanse
  • Lightning Flash - mobility
  • Weave Self - alternative to Glyph of Elementals

Specializations

Equipment

Ascended gear is not required for Open world.

Standard Equipment

Head
Viper
Shoulders
Viper
Chest
Viper
Hands
Viper
Legs
Viper
Feet
Viper
Backpiece
Viper
Accessory
Viper
Accessory
Viper
Amulet
Viper
Ring
Viper
Ring
Viper
Scepter
Viper
Warhorn
Viper
Sigil
Sigil
Staff
Viper
Sigil
Sigil
Rune
x6


Relic
  • The only good alternative DPS relic is Relic of the Aristocracy
  • For defense, ensure you are using a Jade Core and consider some defensive food, like . If necessary, some Celestial Celestial or Trailblazer Trailblazer pieces can make a big difference. Defensive relics like Relic of Evasion, Relic of the Adventurer, and Relic of the Zephyrite are decent options as well.

Budget Equipment

This set is incredibly cheap and provides very high HP, but is lower DPS. If using this variant, place much heavier priority on Fire Attunement

Head
Carrion
Shoulders
Carrion
Chest
Carrion
Hands
Carrion
Legs
Carrion
Feet
Carrion
Backpiece
Carrion
Accessory
Carrion
Accessory
Carrion
Amulet
Carrion
Ring
Carrion
Ring
Carrion
Scepter
Carrion
Warhorn
Carrion
Sigil
Sigil
Staff
Carrion
Sigil
Sigil
Rune
x6


Relic
  • The only good alternative DPS relic is Relic of the Aristocracy

Consumables

Budget consumables are acceptable for use in open world.

DPS

  • Prioritize Flatbread Ascended food.
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Defense

Farming

  • Prioritize Flatbread Ascended food.
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  • (and variants)



Usage

Damage

  • Focus primarily on Fire Attunement and Earth Attunement.
  • Air Attunement can be used to apply Vulnerability Vulnerability.
  • Double Attune to elements to proc Elements of Rage
  • Constantly swap elements to proc Weaver's Prowess
  • Use Primordial Stance, Signet of Fire, and Glyph of Elemental Power off cooldown.
  • Summon Glyph of Elementals in Fire and activate its skill off cooldown.

Loop Priorities

  • There are many viable loop patterns to use for weaver.
  • The general idea is to focus on Fire-Fire as the "default". From there, loop into either Earth or Air, alternating between the two after each Fire-Fire.
  • A suggested example is as follows:
  1. Fire Attunement / Air Attunement
  2. Start combat with Lightning Orb
  3. Fire Attunement / Fire Attunement <-- Loop starts here
  4. Earth Attunement / Fire Attunement
  5. Fire Attunement / Earth Attunement
  6. Fire Attunement / Fire Attunement
  7. Air Attunement / Fire Attunement
  8. Fire Attunement / Air Attunement
  9. Repeat the loop
  10. Quick Text Version: open with f/a to get in combat -> f/f -> e/f -> f/e -> f/f -> a/f -> f/a -> f/f (repeat)
  11. Your attunement presses will look like this: Fire(Opener)-Earth-Fire-Fire-Air-Fire-Fire

This can appear complex, but with only a few minutes of practice the loop becomes very rhythmic and most players will find it easy to follow.

Fire Priority

  1. Wildfire
  2. Dragon's Tooth
  3. Phoenix
  4. Heat Sync

Air Priority

  1. Lightning Orb
  2. Lightning Strike

Earth Priority

  1. Fracturing Strike
  2. Dust Storm
  3. Rock Barrier Hurl

Defense

  • Glyph of Elementals - Earth and Water are strong tank pets
  • Signet of Restoration - passive heal
  • Sand Squall - reflect projectiles
  • Dust Storm - aoe Blind Blind
  • Rock Barrier - barrier + toughness

Crowd Control

  • Gale
  • Polaric Leap (Sword)
  • Gale Strike
  • Weave Self Tailored Victory


Ratings

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5 stars
Fakewitch gave this build 5 stars • February 2023
An amazing build! Deals a lot of damage against enemies and probably my favorite for now to play Elementalist with!
5 stars
Vicmont82 gave this build 5 stars • September 2022
I was pretty frustrated with most builds until i tried this. Really good for solo(arcane) and great for groups(earth).
5 stars
Linera gave this build 5 stars • January 2021
My all time favorite ele build. Feels much more dynamic and fast-paced when compared to any tempest build, pair that with above average self-healing, and the ability to kill most trash mobs with the single press of a button, and you get a fun, fast, powerhouse of a elementalist that can take on even some more difficult content.
5 stars
Jack Armstrong gave this build 5 stars • December 2020
One of my top 3 favorite builds right now, the others being Condi Mirage (melee) and Shortbow Renegade. Very configurable: multiple good weapon choices, and you could probably do well with any utility skills you want, though the ones listed here are likely the best choice for general use. Very durable, yet good damage. While switching stuff around, I ended up with 2 condi clears (Sigil of Cleansing and Diamond Skin trait) and found that, with those and of all the passive barrier and healing applications, I could kill pretty much all of the PoF repeatable hero points while hardly ever moving or dodging, usually losing little or no health in the process. Pretty easy to use, too: as long as you switch attunements often, you can kill stuff pretty quickly with almost random weapon and utility skill usage--though intelligent use gets better results, of course.
5 stars
Onlywrin gave this build 5 stars • December 2020
A really strong open world build for ele that's great in virtually all situations.

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