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* <span style="color:#ff0000">'''6/6'''</span> is an important mastery but can be taken on an unused alt for full benefits without spending points on main characters
 
* <span style="color:#ff0000">'''6/6'''</span> is an important mastery but can be taken on an unused alt for full benefits without spending points on main characters
  
[[File:Warclaw Mastery.png|Warclaw Mastery WvW mastery|link=]] <span style="color:#00ffff; margin-left: 0.75rem;">'''Warclaw Mastery'''</span>
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[[File:Warclaw Mastery.png|Warclaw Mastery WvW mastery|link=]] <span style="color:#00ff00; margin-left: 0.75rem;">'''Warclaw Mastery (Requires Path of Fire)'''</span>
* <span style="color:#00ffff">'''1/7'''</span> is critical to unlock warclaw use.
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* <span style="color:#00ff00">'''1/5'''</span> Lets you mount the warclaw and can get you some skirmish claim tickets via the unlocked achievement
** Make sure to take a look at the [[Guide:How_to_Unlock_the_Warclaw_Mount|Warclaw Mount Unlocking Guide]] once you've spent this point to help finish the unlock
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** Make sure to take a look at the [[Guide:How_to_Unlock_the_Warclaw_Mount|Warclaw Mount Unlocking Guide]] once you've spent this point to help finish the collection
* <span style="color:#00ffff">'''3/7'''</span> makes it very difficult to fall behind groups
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* <span style="color:#00ff00">'''2/5'''</span> Sniff is a useful tool for scouting out enemies behind objective walls
* <span style="color:#ffff00">'''7/7'''</span> the dismounting lance is an extremely important upgrade for roamers, but not very important for zerging, especially with the steep cost.
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* <span style="color:#ffff00">'''4/5'''</span> the dismounting lance is an extremely important upgrade for roamers, but not very important for zerging.
 
** If there was a color above <span style="color:#00ffff">'''Blue'''</span> it would be that for roamers
 
** If there was a color above <span style="color:#00ffff">'''Blue'''</span> it would be that for roamers
  
[[File:War Gliding Mastery.png| War Gliding Mastery WvW mastery|link=]]<span style="color:#00ffff; margin-left: 0.75rem;">'''War Gliding Mastery'''</span>
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[[File:War Gliding Mastery.png| War Gliding Mastery WvW mastery|link=]]<span style="color:#00ffff; margin-left: 0.75rem;">'''War Gliding Mastery (Requires Heart of Thorns or Path of Fire)'''</span>
 
* <span style="color:#00ffff">'''1/5'''</span> is very important to unlock gliding
 
* <span style="color:#00ffff">'''1/5'''</span> is very important to unlock gliding
 
* <span style="color:#00ffff">'''3/5'''</span> the extra speed is useful to make a few glides but more importantly to avoid falling behind allies
 
* <span style="color:#00ffff">'''3/5'''</span> the extra speed is useful to make a few glides but more importantly to avoid falling behind allies
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==Build Orders==
 
==Build Orders==
All builds start with similar initial point distribution since the account upgrades they give are too good to pass up. After the initial ranks there are three paths: The generalist that wants access to a bit of everything, the zerger that wants to run with large groups only and doesn't much care about using siege themselves if it helps their team win, and finally the roamer, for those that know they want to play in a small group at most and need to rely on themselves to do everything.  
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All builds start with similar initial point distribution since the account upgrades they give are too good to pass up. After the initial ranks there are four paths:  
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* The generalist  
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For those that wants access to a bit of everything and the ability to dabble in every playstyle
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* The zerger  
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This order is for players that want to run with large groups only and don't much care about using siege themselves
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* The roamer
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For those that know they want to play in a small group at most and need to rely on themselves to do everything.
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* The defender
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For tower defense enthusiasts and people that play blue in Magic: The Gathering. This setup is optimal for making anyone that tries to attack an objective you defend cry at the expense of everything else.
  
 
Make sure you keep an alt with 6/6 Provisions Master so you can save the points on your main.
 
Make sure you keep an alt with 6/6 Provisions Master so you can save the points on your main.
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<div class="col-md-6 float-md-end mb-3 ms-md-3">[[File:Wvw_gameplay_example.jpg|720px|Playing WvW|class=img-fluid]]</div>
 
<div class="col-md-6 float-md-end mb-3 ms-md-3">[[File:Wvw_gameplay_example.jpg|720px|Playing WvW|class=img-fluid]]</div>
 
====First Points====
 
====First Points====
# Warclaw Mastery 1/7
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# Warclaw Mastery 1/5
 
# War Gliding Master 1/5  
 
# War Gliding Master 1/5  
 
# Provisions Master 4/6
 
# Provisions Master 4/6
# Warclaw Mastery 3/7
 
 
# War Gliding 3/5
 
# War Gliding 3/5
 
# Defense Against Guards 5/5
 
# Defense Against Guards 5/5
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# Arrow Cart Mastery 4/5
 
# Arrow Cart Mastery 4/5
 
# Flame Ram Mastery 3/5
 
# Flame Ram Mastery 3/5
# Warclaw Mastery 7/7
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# Warclaw Mastery 4/5
 
# Repair Master 4/4
 
# Repair Master 4/4
  
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<div class="col-md-6 float-md-end mb-3 ms-md-3">[[File:wvw zerging example.jpg|720px|Zerg fighting in WvW|class=img-fluid]]</div>
 
<div class="col-md-6 float-md-end mb-3 ms-md-3">[[File:wvw zerging example.jpg|720px|Zerg fighting in WvW|class=img-fluid]]</div>
 
====First Points====
 
====First Points====
# Warclaw Mastery 1/7
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# Warclaw Mastery 1/5
 
# War Gliding Master 1/5  
 
# War Gliding Master 1/5  
 
# Provisions Master 4/6
 
# Provisions Master 4/6
# Warclaw Mastery 3/7
 
 
# War Gliding 3/5
 
# War Gliding 3/5
 
# Defense Against Guards 5/5
 
# Defense Against Guards 5/5
 
# Siege Bunker 5/5
 
# Siege Bunker 5/5
 
# Guard Killer 5/5
 
# Guard Killer 5/5
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# Warclaw Mastery 2/5
 
# War Gliding 5/5
 
# War Gliding 5/5
  
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# Provisions Master 5/6
 
# Provisions Master 5/6
 
# Supply Capacity 5/5
 
# Supply Capacity 5/5
# Warclaw Mastery 5/7
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# Warclaw Mastery 4/5
 
# Build Master 4/4
 
# Build Master 4/4
 
# Repair Master 4/4
 
# Repair Master 4/4
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<div class="col-md-6 float-md-end mb-3 ms-md-3">[[File:Wvw_roaming_example.jpg|720px|Roaming in WvW|class=img-fluid]]</div>
 
<div class="col-md-6 float-md-end mb-3 ms-md-3">[[File:Wvw_roaming_example.jpg|720px|Roaming in WvW|class=img-fluid]]</div>
 
====First Points====
 
====First Points====
# Warclaw Mastery 1/7
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# Warclaw Mastery 4/5
 
# War Gliding Master 1/5  
 
# War Gliding Master 1/5  
 
# Defense Against Guards 5/5
 
# Defense Against Guards 5/5
 
# Guard Killer 5/5 - (Roamers should take this before Siege Bunker)
 
# Guard Killer 5/5 - (Roamers should take this before Siege Bunker)
# Warclaw Mastery 3/7
 
 
# Siege Bunker 5/5
 
# Siege Bunker 5/5
 
# Provisions Master 4/6
 
# Provisions Master 4/6
# Retrain ability points here to take Warclaw 7/7
 
 
# War Gliding 3/5
 
# War Gliding 3/5
 
# War Gliding 5/5
 
# War Gliding 5/5
  
There is an important modification for roamers. Warclaw Mastery 7/7 gives access to the Dismounting Lance ability which is critical for engaging fights. It is worth retraining your ability points as soon as you reach rank 166 so that you can use it as soon as possible. Retraining can be done at the  [https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/World_Ability_Master World Ability Master] NPC found in the spawn area of any WvW map. Your first retraining is free while subsequent retrainings cost 25 spirit shards. Once you have Warclaw 7/7 simply restart from step 2: War Gliding Master 1/5, then progress from there.
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While we didn't include <span style="color:#00ff00">'''Supply Capacity'''</span> in the early recommendations, this mastery could also be rather valuable depending on your playstyle. Being able to carry more supply allows you to build siege with fewer people, which makes this mastery well suited for people who prefer to play in smaller groups but still want to take on more than just a few enemy players and lesser objectives. For more info on how to be a roamer check out our [[Guide:Beginner's_Guide_To_WvW_Roaming|Beginner's Guide to WvW Roaming]].
 
 
While we didn't include <span style="color:#00ff00">'''Supply Capacity'''</span> in the pre-Warclaw recommendations, this mastery could also be rather valuable depending on your playstyle. Being able to carry more supply allows you to build siege with fewer people, which makes this mastery well suited for people who prefer to play in smaller groups but still want to take on more than just a few enemy players and lesser objectives. For more info on how to be a roamer check out our [[Guide:Beginner's_Guide_To_WvW_Roaming|Beginner's Guide to WvW Roaming]].
 
  
  
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# Mortar Mastery 5/5
 
# Mortar Mastery 5/5
 
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===The Defender===
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====First Points====
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# Warclaw Mastery 1/5
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# War Gliding Master 1/5
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# Provisions Master 4/6
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# Build Master 2/5
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# Shield Generator Mastery 4/5
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# Trebuchet Mastery 3/5
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# Arrow Cart Mastery 4/5
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# Siege Might 5/5
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# Burning Oil Mastery 4/5
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# Supply Master 4/5
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# Repair Master 5/5
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# Build Master 5/5
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# Provisions Master 5/6
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====Secondary Priorities====
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# Supply Capacity 5/5
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# Guard Killer 5/5
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# Defense Against Guards 5/5
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# Ballista Mastery 4/5
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# Siege Bunker 5/5
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# Cannon Mastery 4/5
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# War Gliding 3/5
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# Guard Killer 5/5
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# Defense Against Guards 5/5
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# Catapult Mastery 4/5
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# Mortar Mastery 4/5
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# Flame Ram Mastery 3/5
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# Warclaw Mastery 2/5
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# War Gliding 5/5
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# Mercenary's Bane 5/5
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====Tertiary Priorities====
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# Ballista Mastery 5/5
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# Mortar Mastery 5/5
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# Burning Oil Mastery 5/5
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# Golem Mastery 5/5
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# Catapult Mastery 5/5
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# Flame Ram Mastery 5/5
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# Cannon Mastery 5/5
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# Arrow Cart Mastery 5/5
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# Trebuchet Mastery 5/5
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# Provisions Master 6/6
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# Shield Generator Mastery 5/5 - never take, final point is bugged and a downgrade for defending

Latest revision as of 16:01, 7 September 2024

WvW Ability Points

Introduction

Where you put your WvW mastery points should be determined by your personal playstyle. The guide aims to explain why you might want particular upgrades, but feel free to use the sidebar to jump to suggested builds if you prefer. Throughout the guide you'll see mastery names accompanied by a fraction (#/#), which indicates the number of ranks out of the maximum in that mastery. This is because it is often more efficient to take some ranks in a mastery without maxing it out until later. The point costs of abilities jumps dramatically at later levels and aren't always accompanied by a corresponding leap in value.

Each mastery will be color coded as follows:

  • Red: Bad option, not worth taking until everything else is finished
  • Yellow: Average option, sometimes useful or niche but best to wait till later unless it fits your playstyle exactly.
  • Green: Good option, should be taken early.
  • Blue: Strongest option, critical for every playstyle and should be taken first.

See the wiki page for a reference on the abilities.


Types of Upgrades

Account Upgrades

Provisions Master WvW mastery Provisions Master

  • 4/6 gives access to autoloot, making this the biggest convenience upgrade in the entire mastery system.
    • Green for roamers who are rarely killing large amounts of enemies at once.
  • 6/6 is an important mastery but can be taken on an unused alt for full benefits without spending points on main characters

Warclaw Mastery WvW mastery Warclaw Mastery (Requires Path of Fire)

  • 1/5 Lets you mount the warclaw and can get you some skirmish claim tickets via the unlocked achievement
  • 2/5 Sniff is a useful tool for scouting out enemies behind objective walls
  • 4/5 the dismounting lance is an extremely important upgrade for roamers, but not very important for zerging.
    • If there was a color above Blue it would be that for roamers

War Gliding Mastery WvW masteryWar Gliding Mastery (Requires Heart of Thorns or Path of Fire)

  • 1/5 is very important to unlock gliding
  • 3/5 the extra speed is useful to make a few glides but more importantly to avoid falling behind allies
  • 5/5 infinite stamina is not strictly needed except for a couple niche situations and could be delayed, but it is very convenient


Combat

Defense Against Guards WvW mastery Defense Against Guards

  • Reducing lord damage is nice for zerging, but for those that want to solo camps this is even more important
  • Take this before siege bunker if roaming focused, but take siege bunker first if zerging focused

Guard Killer WvW mastery Guard Killer

  • Extremely useful for all styles of play, this is bigger DPS increase against NPCs than the jump between rare and ascended gear.

Mercenary's Bane WvW mastery Mercenary's Bane

  • There are very few mercenaries in the game, most players will only ever see the ones in EBG at the hylek and dredge camps. Because of their low impact this should be one of the last masteries you take.

Siege Bunker WvW mastery Siege Bunker

  • Massive damage reduction against siege makes this a critical early upgrade.


Utility

Build Master WvW mastery Build Master

  • Faster build speed is nice and the early points are cheap, but diminishes in value for each subsequent point. 1/5 or 2/5 is enough until late in your mastery progress.

Repair Master WvW mastery Repair Master

  • Similarly to Build Master, 1/5 or 2/5 is enough until late in your mastery progress.

Supply Capacity WvW mastery Supply Capacity

  • This mastery is extremely expensive, but since most large groups will have many people with maxxed masteries it can be one of the best upgrades for new players to support their team.
  • If you plan to use siege yourself this needs to be delayed until after the critical siege masteries are done.

Supply Master WvW mastery Supply Master

  • 1/5 is a nice convenience, making gathering supply instant
  • 4/5 is the most valuable part of this mastery and very cheap. It isn't much extra supply but is way more efficient than Supply Capacity.
  • 5/5 is ok for commanders and anyone else dropping their own siege, but otherwise useless.


Siege

Arrow Cart Mastery WvW mastery Arrow Cart Mastery

  • Arrow carts are one of the most used pieces of defensive siege and they are used in the highest numbers of any defensive siege, which makes this a good choice to take early.
  • 4/5 is all you really need here, unlocking extra damage and radius
  • 5/5 Toxic Unveiling Shot is rarely useful and can be left till much later

Ballista Mastery WvW mastery Ballista Mastery

  • Ballista are useful for destroying enemy siege, but a bit niche and not often used en masse. For general play this is a mastery best taken later unless you really enjoy siege vs siege gameplay, but roamers may want it sooner.
  • 4/5 is very important for using ballista due to the extra range
  • 5/5 is only a minor improvement and can be delayed

Burning Oil Mastery WvW mastery Burning Oil Mastery

  • With only one oil per gate it is very likely another player with masteries will be able to man it. That said, oil is extremely powerful at clearing a sneaky ram attack and has very strong masteries, so can be worth picking up early if you like scouting and defending.
  • 3/5 provides CC immunity while manning the oil and massive damage reduction, making it a solid breakpoint
  • 5/5 is useful, but largely redundant with the damage reduction from 3/5

Cannon Mastery WvW mastery Cannon Mastery

  • Much like oil, cannons will often be used by other players. Unlike oil however the cannon masteries are less useful since the base siege is already very powerful.
  • 2/5 is usually more than enough
  • 4/5 gives a radius increase that may allow you to hit some siege positions just beyond the max range.

Catapult Mastery WvW mastery Catapult Mastery

  • Probably the most important piece of siege in the game, this mastery should be taken early if not first by anyone that wants to use siege
  • 4/5 is a good breakpoint before swapping to Siege Might for max DPS
  • 5/5 is useful to stop siege disablers.

Flame Ram Mastery WvW mastery Flame Ram Mastery

  • Flame rams are the most used offensive siege alongside catapults. Picking up some early points here is useful, though if you play a squishy build and zerg often it may be better to let tankier players take on the burden.
  • 3/5 is the most important mastery for rams since the cooldown reduction gives extra DPS
  • 5/5 if you have points to spare Iron Hide is useful when using rams while under siege

Mortar Mastery WvW mastery Mortar Mastery

  • Mortars are pretty difficult to use and generally only helpful for counter siege. Unless you love mastering difficult siege v siege gameplay, leave this one until later.
  • 4/5 is all you need for maximum damage on mortars
  • 5/5 makes mortars much easier to use by letting the siege aim itself

Shield Generator Mastery WvW mastery Shield Generator Mastery

  • Shield generators don't get used in large numbers often and generally require either all 5 points or none at all to do their job, making this a good mastery to skip until later.
  • 4/5 cooldown reduction is very important for defensive countersieging
  • 5/5 arrow cart protection is crucial for enabling sieges under heavy pressure
    • Taking the final upgrade causes Force Dome to not pulse Stability Stability, making this final point a downgrade for defending

Siege Golem Mastery WvW mastery Siege Golem Mastery

  • Golems are a somewhat rarely used siege but do get thrown down for sneak attacks and to defend camps.
  • 2/5 gives you every damage increase for the golem which is enough for sneak attacks, but get to 5/5 if you can

Siege Might WvW mastery Siege Might

  • Very important but always secondary to catapult mastery.

Trebuchet Mastery WvW mastery Trebuchet Mastery

  • Much like the mortar, this is usually a pretty niche anti-siege weapon and often a safe place to skip on spending points. That said, it does have some use as both offensive and defensive siege that makes it a better place to spend points than mortars.
  • 3/5 is enough to get everything useful, don't take the last two points until much later


Build Orders

All builds start with similar initial point distribution since the account upgrades they give are too good to pass up. After the initial ranks there are four paths:

  • The generalist

For those that wants access to a bit of everything and the ability to dabble in every playstyle

  • The zerger

This order is for players that want to run with large groups only and don't much care about using siege themselves

  • The roamer

For those that know they want to play in a small group at most and need to rely on themselves to do everything.

  • The defender

For tower defense enthusiasts and people that play blue in Magic: The Gathering. This setup is optimal for making anyone that tries to attack an objective you defend cry at the expense of everything else.

Make sure you keep an alt with 6/6 Provisions Master so you can save the points on your main.


The Generalist

Playing WvW

First Points

  1. Warclaw Mastery 1/5
  2. War Gliding Master 1/5
  3. Provisions Master 4/6
  4. War Gliding 3/5
  5. Defense Against Guards 5/5
  6. Siege Bunker 5/5
  7. Guard Killer 5/5
  8. War Gliding 5/5


Secondary Priorities

  1. Supply Master 4/5
  2. Build Master 2/4
  3. Repair Master 1/4
  4. Provisions Master 5/6
  5. Catapult Mastery 4/5
  6. Siege Might 5/5
  7. Arrow Cart Mastery 4/5
  8. Flame Ram Mastery 3/5
  9. Warclaw Mastery 4/5
  10. Repair Master 4/4


Tertiary Priorities

  1. Supply Capacity 5/5
  2. Shield Generator Mastery 5/5
  3. Burning Oil Mastery 5/5
  4. Cannon Mastery 5/5
  5. Golem Mastery 5/5
  6. Trebuchet Mastery 5/5
  7. Mortar Mastery 5/5
  8. Ballista Mastery 5/5


The Zerger

Zerg fighting in WvW

First Points

  1. Warclaw Mastery 1/5
  2. War Gliding Master 1/5
  3. Provisions Master 4/6
  4. War Gliding 3/5
  5. Defense Against Guards 5/5
  6. Siege Bunker 5/5
  7. Guard Killer 5/5
  8. Warclaw Mastery 2/5
  9. War Gliding 5/5


Secondary Priorities

  1. Supply Master 4/5
  2. Build Master 2/4
  3. Repair Master 1/4
  4. Provisions Master 5/6
  5. Supply Capacity 5/5
  6. Warclaw Mastery 4/5
  7. Build Master 4/4
  8. Repair Master 4/4


Tertiary Priorities

  1. Catapult Mastery 5/5
  2. Siege Might 5/5
  3. Arrow Cart Mastery 5/5
  4. Flame Ram Mastery 5/5
  5. Shield Generator Mastery 5/5
  6. Burning Oil Mastery 5/5
  7. Cannon Mastery 5/5
  8. Golem Mastery 5/5
  9. Trebuchet Mastery 5/5
  10. Mortar Mastery 5/5
  11. Ballista Mastery 5/5


The Roamer

Roaming in WvW

First Points

  1. Warclaw Mastery 4/5
  2. War Gliding Master 1/5
  3. Defense Against Guards 5/5
  4. Guard Killer 5/5 - (Roamers should take this before Siege Bunker)
  5. Siege Bunker 5/5
  6. Provisions Master 4/6
  7. War Gliding 3/5
  8. War Gliding 5/5

While we didn't include Supply Capacity in the early recommendations, this mastery could also be rather valuable depending on your playstyle. Being able to carry more supply allows you to build siege with fewer people, which makes this mastery well suited for people who prefer to play in smaller groups but still want to take on more than just a few enemy players and lesser objectives. For more info on how to be a roamer check out our Beginner's Guide to WvW Roaming.


Secondary Priorities

  1. Catapult Mastery 4/5
  2. Siege Might 5/5
  3. Catapult Mastery 5/5
  4. Build Master 2/4
  5. Supply Master 4/5
  6. Provisions Master 5/6
  7. Build Master 4/4


Tertiary Priorities

  1. Arrow Cart Mastery 5/5
  2. Flame Ram Mastery 5/5
  3. Burning Oil Mastery 5/5
  4. Ballista Mastery 5/5
  5. Cannon Mastery 5/5
  6. Shield Generator Mastery 5/5
  7. Golem Mastery 5/5
  8. Trebuchet Mastery 5/5
  9. Mortar Mastery 5/5


The Defender

First Points

  1. Warclaw Mastery 1/5
  2. War Gliding Master 1/5
  3. Provisions Master 4/6
  4. Build Master 2/5
  5. Shield Generator Mastery 4/5
  6. Trebuchet Mastery 3/5
  7. Arrow Cart Mastery 4/5
  8. Siege Might 5/5
  9. Burning Oil Mastery 4/5
  10. Supply Master 4/5
  11. Repair Master 5/5
  12. Build Master 5/5
  13. Provisions Master 5/6


Secondary Priorities

  1. Supply Capacity 5/5
  2. Guard Killer 5/5
  3. Defense Against Guards 5/5
  4. Ballista Mastery 4/5
  5. Siege Bunker 5/5
  6. Cannon Mastery 4/5
  7. War Gliding 3/5
  8. Guard Killer 5/5
  9. Defense Against Guards 5/5
  10. Catapult Mastery 4/5
  11. Mortar Mastery 4/5
  12. Flame Ram Mastery 3/5
  13. Warclaw Mastery 2/5
  14. War Gliding 5/5
  15. Mercenary's Bane 5/5


Tertiary Priorities

  1. Ballista Mastery 5/5
  2. Mortar Mastery 5/5
  3. Burning Oil Mastery 5/5
  4. Golem Mastery 5/5
  5. Catapult Mastery 5/5
  6. Flame Ram Mastery 5/5
  7. Cannon Mastery 5/5
  8. Arrow Cart Mastery 5/5
  9. Trebuchet Mastery 5/5
  10. Provisions Master 6/6
  11. Shield Generator Mastery 5/5 - never take, final point is bugged and a downgrade for defending

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