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{{Build | {{Build | ||
| profession = necromancer | | profession = necromancer | ||
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| rating = great | | rating = great | ||
| focus = condition damage, boon removal | | focus = condition damage, boon removal | ||
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==Overview== | ==Overview== | ||
− | A Condition Necromancer PvP build with | + | A Condition Necromancer PvP build with a big focus on {{Tooltip|Fear}} chains, made to teamfight. Usable by F2P players as well. |
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| specialization = | | specialization = | ||
| weapon1 = scepter | | weapon1 = scepter | ||
− | | weapon2 = | + | | weapon2 = sword |
| weapon3 = staff | | weapon3 = staff | ||
| healing = Consume Conditions | | healing = Consume Conditions | ||
− | | utility1 = Spectral | + | | utility1 = Spectral Ring |
| utility2 = Summon Flesh Wurm | | utility2 = Summon Flesh Wurm | ||
| utility3 = Spectral Walk | | utility3 = Spectral Walk | ||
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− | === | + | ===Skill Variants=== |
+ | '''Weapons''' | ||
+ | * To play ''' offhand Sword''' you need to own the ''Secrets of the Obscure'' expansion. | ||
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+ | * Free-to-play players are going to have to play ''Scepter/Warhorn'' instead of Scepter/Pistol. | ||
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'''Utility''' | '''Utility''' | ||
− | + | Other viable utility options: | |
− | * {{Skill| | + | * {{Skill|Plague Signet}} - the extremely low CD of this signet could allow you to get away with only playing this one stunbreak. That also makes it easier to make room for other skills on this list. |
− | * {{Skill|Well of Corruption}} - AoE boon corruption. | + | * {{Skill|Well of Darkness}} - the Blind is great for surviving in melee and the Chill could be used to pressure targets. |
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+ | * {{Skill|Corrupt Boon}} - unblockable single target boon corruption that's hard to avoid, great for bursting targets without any other setup. It's even good for defensive purposes while under pressure - quickly corrupting {{Tooltip|Stability}} and {{Tooltip|Might}} into {{Tooltip|Fear}} and {{Tooltip|Weakness}} for instance could save you. | ||
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+ | * {{Skill|Well of Corruption}} - AoE boon corruption but less bursty than Corrupt Boon. | ||
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+ | * {{Skill|Corrosive Poison Cloud}} - AoE projectile counter and anti-direct damage skill that also helps with killing bunkers with the {{Tooltip|Poison}}. | ||
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+ | '''Elite''' | ||
+ | * {{Skill|Summon Flesh Golem}} - the idea here is to use a worse elite, but exploit the low CD with {{Relic|Relic of the Nightmare}} for another long duation AoE fear proc. | ||
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+ | '''Signet Variant''' | ||
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+ | This is a more offensive version of the build with better boon removal and some much needed {{Tooltip|Quickness}} on a build full of slow attacks, but you have to cut a defensive specialization for {{Tooltip|Spite}}: | ||
+ | * Heal: {{Skill|Signet of Vampirism}}<!--- it's a better healing skill if you're expecting to face mostly Power-based specs and won't have to deal with conditions much.--> | ||
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+ | * Utilities: {{Skill|Plague Signet}} + either {{Skill|Signet of Spite}} or {{Skill|Signet of the Locust}}, 3rd slot is an optional slot (you could also take both). If you pick Signet of the Locust, you might be able to drop the movement focused relic/rune for something else, even if you're ''not'' playing Warhorn. | ||
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==Template Code== | ==Template Code== | ||
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}} | }} | ||
==Specializations== | ==Specializations== | ||
− | {{Specialization|Curses|mid| | + | {{Specialization|Curses|mid|mid|mid}} |
− | {{Specialization|Blood Magic| | + | {{Specialization|Blood Magic|bot|bot|bot}} |
+ | '''Variants''' | ||
+ | * Take {{Trait|Banshee's Wail}} when playing with Warhorn. This will slightly improve your Warhorn {{Tooltip|Fear}} duration albeit at the expense of survivability and group utility. It also gives you better {{Tooltip|Swiftness}} uptime, which means you get to drop Rune of the Lynx for something stronger (like {{Rune|Necromancer}}), although this might leave you vulnerable to boon removal. | ||
{{Specialization|Soul Reaping|mid|bot|bot}} | {{Specialization|Soul Reaping|mid|bot|bot}} | ||
− | <!--=== | + | '''Variants''' |
− | + | * If you feel like you're not getting enough value out of {{Trait|Dhuumfire}} in your games because you often find yourself Life Force starved or focused by the enemy team and don't have opportunities to use shroud autos, consider picking up {{Trait|Eternal Life}} instead. Eternal Life is a decent defensive CD in general, especially in a build that doesn't have a lot of instant cast defensive abilities. | |
− | {{Specialization|Spite|bot|top| | + | <!--===DM Variant=== |
+ | {{Tooltip|Death Magic}} over {{Tooltip|Blood Magic}} is also a viable option. Both of these are strong defensive specializations, DM offers better damage mitigation and condition cleansing while BM adds extra healing and group utility to the build: | ||
+ | {{Specialization|Death Magic|bot|bot|mid|variant=y}}--> | ||
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+ | ===Spite Signet Variant=== | ||
+ | Take {{Tooltip|Spite}} instead of Blood Magic if you're playing with '''signets''': | ||
+ | {{Specialization|Spite|bot|bot|top|variant=y}} | ||
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{{PvP equipment | {{PvP equipment | ||
| weapon1 = scepter | | weapon1 = scepter | ||
− | | weapon2 = | + | | weapon2 = sword |
| weapon3 = staff | | weapon3 = staff | ||
| sigil1 = Doom | | sigil1 = Doom | ||
− | | sigil2 = | + | | sigil2 = Exposure |
| sigil3 = Energy | | sigil3 = Energy | ||
| sigil4 = Intelligence | | sigil4 = Intelligence | ||
− | | rune = | + | | rune = Lynx |
| amulet = Carrion | | amulet = Carrion | ||
+ | | relic = Relic of Agony | ||
}} | }} | ||
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+ | ===Equipment Variants=== | ||
+ | '''Mobility options''' | ||
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+ | It's recommended that you use either Rune of the Lynx, Relic of the Wayfinder, or offhand Warhorn for a mobility boost. These all have their pros and cons: | ||
+ | * {{Rune|Lynx}} - allows you to run Sword and whatever relic you'd like. Relic of the Demon Queen for example provides some extra pressure, a cover condition that's always applied when you do Fear chains, and the extra healing reduction makes it harder for enemies to resustain. | ||
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+ | * {{Relic|Relic of the Wayfinder}} - it's a bit better mobility option than Rune of the Lynx and you can run Sword with it all the same. You sacrifice your relic slot and the powerful bonuses that could come with that, but get to play runes with better stats like {{Rune|Necromancer}} which could increase your overall damage. | ||
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+ | * '''Warhorn''' offers {{Tooltip|Swiftness}} which is better than both the rune and the relic for mobility, but it doesn't give you permanent uptime on it and being a boon it can be countered by boon removal, whereas the rune and relic bonuses are always active. With Warhorn however you get to play better runes and relics. | ||
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+ | '''Amulet''' | ||
+ | * {{Amulet|Sage}} - slightly worse damage in exchange for improved sustain and even group support via {{Trait|Transfusion}}. Replace {{Sigil|Intelligence}} with {{Sigil|Transference}} on Staff. | ||
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+ | '''Sigils''' | ||
+ | * {{Sigil|Revocation}} over {{Sigil|Exposure}} - trades a cover condition and some damage increase for another chance to rip {{Tooltip|Stability}} and make way for {{Tooltip|Fear}} chains. | ||
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'''General''' | '''General''' | ||
− | *'''Positioning:''' Necromancer sustain is far from great. Keep out of melee range whenever possible | + | *'''Positioning:''' Necromancer sustain is far from great. Keep out of melee range whenever possible and abuse spots which break teleport skills to make it harder to get to you. Don't stand on capture points unless you absolutely have to. |
*All of your marks are unblockable and generate Life Force. | *All of your marks are unblockable and generate Life Force. | ||
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*'''Never''' spam your marks on the ground out of combat - they are easy to spot and a single dodge from the enemy can get rid of them. The only exception can be {{Skill|Mark of Blood}} (because it's not a key skill and has a low CD), which you can freely place at an entrance or under yourself to potentially give away Stealthed enemy movement. | *'''Never''' spam your marks on the ground out of combat - they are easy to spot and a single dodge from the enemy can get rid of them. The only exception can be {{Skill|Mark of Blood}} (because it's not a key skill and has a low CD), which you can freely place at an entrance or under yourself to potentially give away Stealthed enemy movement. | ||
− | * | + | * Both weapon sets have access to unblockable CC skills (when playing with '''Warhorn'''): {{Skill|Reaper's Mark}} on '''Staff''' and {{Skill|Wail of Doom}} on '''Scepter/Warhorn'''. |
+ | <!--*Entering Shroud triggers {{Trait|Weakening Shroud}}. If you're CC'd and getting focused you can enter shroud to rip boons and apply {{Tooltip|Weakness}} as a defensive measure. | ||
+ | *Entering {{Skill|Lich Form}} near the end of the ready up phase at the beginning of a game (right before the final 10 second countdown starts) makes you start off with 5% Life Force. Not a lot but better than nothing.--> | ||
− | * | + | * {{Skill|Locust Swarm}} can act as a counter to {{Tooltip|Blind}} when used in melee range of any enemy. This skill frequently pulses damage around you which can "consume" the blind on you, causing a tick of Locust Swarm to miss instead of some important skill you're casting. |
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+ | '''Damage''' | ||
− | ''' | + | * The build is all about keeping targets constantly pressured before finishing them off with {{Tooltip|Fear}} chains. Fear is the strongest damaging condition in the build thanks to {{Trait|Terror}}. |
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+ | * Scepter/Warhorn is a bit more bursty while Staff is more of a utility weapon used to snare targets, transfer conditions, and CC/build Life Force from range. | ||
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+ | * {{Skill|Feast of Corruption}} is a strong burst skill but only when used on targets with at least 4-5 different conditions. It also corrupts a boon which means with a little luck this could add another source of {{Tooltip|Fear}} to the build. | ||
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+ | * There are 5 sources of {{Tooltip|Fear}} in the build, try chaining them together when you're going for the kill on an already pressured target: | ||
+ | ** Either {{Relic|Relic of the Nightmare}} when playing with Flesh Golem or {{Skill|Ripple of Horror}} when using Lich Form. | ||
+ | ** {{Skill|Doom}} - Shroud #3. | ||
+ | ** {{Skill|Wail of Doom}} - Warhorn #4 ''OR'' {{Skill|Devouring Visage}} - Sword #5. | ||
+ | ** {{Skill|Reaper's Mark}} - Staff #5. | ||
+ | ** {{Skill|Spectral Ring}} - utility skill. The ring applies {{Tooltip|Fear}} whenever an enemy crosses it, and you could force them to cross by using other sources of Fear on them. The duration of Fear stacks. | ||
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+ | * Both the Scepter and Pistol autoattacks are far superior to Staff's in terms of damage. Scepter could even apply {{Tooltip|Poison}} for healing reduction. | ||
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+ | * {{Skill|Putrid Mark}} is a '''Blast''' finisher, you may combo this with {{Skill|Chillblains}} for AoE {{Tooltip|Weakness}} or {{Skill|Spectral Ring}} for AoE {{Skill|Chaos Armor}}. | ||
− | * | + | * ''Elite-dependent'' {{Skill|Summon Flesh Golem}} can be taken for its {{Relic|Relic of the Nightmare}} synergy because this is the shortest CD core Necromancer elite skill. <!--The {{Tooltip|Fear}} proc itself has a delay and should go off after the Golem's Charge, which means it won't override the knockdown.--> |
<!--* {{Skill|Corrupt Boon}} is not only a great spike skill, but also a defensive one - thanks to the low cast time CB can be used to counterpressure targets. Someone's chasing you with {{Tooltip|Stability}} and {{Tooltip|Might}} stacks? Turn their boons against them, right into {{Tooltip|Fear}} and {{Tooltip|Weakness}}! It's also unblockable. | <!--* {{Skill|Corrupt Boon}} is not only a great spike skill, but also a defensive one - thanks to the low cast time CB can be used to counterpressure targets. Someone's chasing you with {{Tooltip|Stability}} and {{Tooltip|Might}} stacks? Turn their boons against them, right into {{Tooltip|Fear}} and {{Tooltip|Weakness}}! It's also unblockable. | ||
Even just a two skill chain of {{Skill|Corrupt Boon}} {{to}} {{Skill|Feast of Corruption}} is already a decent burst combo, inflicting up to 6 different conditions and stripping at least 5 boons (potentially more with sigils). | Even just a two skill chain of {{Skill|Corrupt Boon}} {{to}} {{Skill|Feast of Corruption}} is already a decent burst combo, inflicting up to 6 different conditions and stripping at least 5 boons (potentially more with sigils). | ||
− | {{Skill|Plaguelands}} is potent, but hard to land as anyone could just walk right out of it. Your goal here is to make your enemy overcommit to staying inside the range of this AoE - drop it on downed enemies when their team is coming to revive them, or under yourself on low HP essentially acting as a bait. | + | {{Skill|Plaguelands}} is potent, but hard to land as anyone could just walk right out of it. Your goal here is to make your enemy overcommit to staying inside the range of this AoE - drop it on downed enemies when their team is coming to revive them, or under yourself on low HP essentially acting as a bait. |
*{{Skill|Lich Form}} adds some direct damage burst to the build, this skill is great for finishing off opponents. | *{{Skill|Lich Form}} adds some direct damage burst to the build, this skill is great for finishing off opponents. | ||
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*Shroud burst rotation (in melee range this doubles as a defensive rotation): | *Shroud burst rotation (in melee range this doubles as a defensive rotation): | ||
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# {{skill|Life Transfer}} | # {{skill|Life Transfer}} | ||
# Spam {{Skill|Life Blast}} | # Spam {{Skill|Life Blast}} | ||
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'''Support''' | '''Support''' | ||
*Blood Magic adds a small degree of team support to the build. The most notable benefit here is the improved rez potential. | *Blood Magic adds a small degree of team support to the build. The most notable benefit here is the improved rez potential. | ||
− | *{{Trait|Ritual of Life}} places a Well under target ally which not only revives '''downed''' players, but also '''heals''' everyone in range including yourself (and it's quite a significant bit of healing). However, if the Well gets placed while you're in shroud, you won't be healed at all! | + | *{{Trait|Ritual of Life}} places a Well under target ally which not only revives '''downed''' players, but also '''heals''' everyone in range including yourself (and it's quite a significant bit of healing). However, if the Well gets placed while you're in shroud, you won't be healed at all!--> |
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*The build has above average condition cleansing by Necromancer standards. | *The build has above average condition cleansing by Necromancer standards. | ||
− | * | + | *Entering shroud causes your next attack to transfer conditions thanks to {{Trait|Plague Sending}}. |
*{{Skill|Spectral Walk}} (SW) is great for preventing condition pressure from ramping up on you. Activating its chain skill which "ends" Spectral Walk does not stop the cleansing. This skill has many uses, for example: | *{{Skill|Spectral Walk}} (SW) is great for preventing condition pressure from ramping up on you. Activating its chain skill which "ends" Spectral Walk does not stop the cleansing. This skill has many uses, for example: | ||
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*{{Skill|Consume Conditions}} is more of a last resort option that should only be used at or below ~50% HP and when other forms of cleansing/healing won't suffice. | *{{Skill|Consume Conditions}} is more of a last resort option that should only be used at or below ~50% HP and when other forms of cleansing/healing won't suffice. | ||
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==Top Streamers== | ==Top Streamers== | ||
* Twitch: [https://www.twitch.tv/notoriousnaru Naru] | * Twitch: [https://www.twitch.tv/notoriousnaru Naru] | ||
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+ | * Twitch: [https://www.twitch.tv/bel_uh Bel] | ||
==Related Builds== | ==Related Builds== | ||
* [[Build:Necromancer_-_Core_Condi_Roamer|Core Condition Roamer]] - the WvW Roaming version of this sPvP build. | * [[Build:Necromancer_-_Core_Condi_Roamer|Core Condition Roamer]] - the WvW Roaming version of this sPvP build. |
Latest revision as of 07:27, 20 July 2025
The community gave this build a rating, making it top-tier: Great
Focused on: Condition damage and Boon removal
Designed for: PvP Conquest
Overview
A Condition Necromancer PvP build with a big focus on Fear chains, made to teamfight. Usable by F2P players as well.
Skill Bar
Skill Variants
Weapons
- To play offhand Sword you need to own the Secrets of the Obscure expansion.
- Free-to-play players are going to have to play Scepter/Warhorn instead of Scepter/Pistol.
Utility
Other viable utility options:
- - the extremely low CD of this signet could allow you to get away with only playing this one stunbreak. That also makes it easier to make room for other skills on this list.
- - the Blind is great for surviving in melee and the Chill could be used to pressure targets.
Stability and
Might into
Fear and
Weakness for instance could save you.
- unblockable single target boon corruption that's hard to avoid, great for bursting targets without any other setup. It's even good for defensive purposes while under pressure - quickly corrupting
- - AoE boon corruption but less bursty than Corrupt Boon.
Poison.
- AoE projectile counter and anti-direct damage skill that also helps with killing bunkers with the
Elite
- - the idea here is to use a worse elite, but exploit the low CD with for another long duation AoE fear proc.
Signet Variant
This is a more offensive version of the build with better boon removal and some much needed Quickness on a build full of slow attacks, but you have to cut a defensive specialization for
Spite:
- Heal:
- Utilities: + either or , 3rd slot is an optional slot (you could also take both). If you pick Signet of the Locust, you might be able to drop the movement focused relic/rune for something else, even if you're not playing Warhorn.
Template Code
Specializations
Variants
- Take
Fear duration albeit at the expense of survivability and group utility. It also gives you better
Swiftness uptime, which means you get to drop Rune of the Lynx for something stronger (like ), although this might leave you vulnerable to boon removal.
when playing with Warhorn. This will slightly improve your Warhorn
Variants
- If you feel like you're not getting enough value out of in your games because you often find yourself Life Force starved or focused by the enemy team and don't have opportunities to use shroud autos, consider picking up instead. Eternal Life is a decent defensive CD in general, especially in a build that doesn't have a lot of instant cast defensive abilities.
Spite Signet Variant
Take Spite instead of Blood Magic if you're playing with signets:
Equipment
Equipment Variants
Mobility options
It's recommended that you use either Rune of the Lynx, Relic of the Wayfinder, or offhand Warhorn for a mobility boost. These all have their pros and cons:
- - allows you to run Sword and whatever relic you'd like. Relic of the Demon Queen for example provides some extra pressure, a cover condition that's always applied when you do Fear chains, and the extra healing reduction makes it harder for enemies to resustain.
- - it's a bit better mobility option than Rune of the Lynx and you can run Sword with it all the same. You sacrifice your relic slot and the powerful bonuses that could come with that, but get to play runes with better stats like which could increase your overall damage.
- Warhorn offers
Swiftness which is better than both the rune and the relic for mobility, but it doesn't give you permanent uptime on it and being a boon it can be countered by boon removal, whereas the rune and relic bonuses are always active. With Warhorn however you get to play better runes and relics.
Amulet
- - slightly worse damage in exchange for improved sustain and even group support via . Replace with on Staff.
Sigils
Stability and make way for
Fear chains.
over - trades a cover condition and some damage increase for another chance to rip
Usage
General
- Positioning: Necromancer sustain is far from great. Keep out of melee range whenever possible and abuse spots which break teleport skills to make it harder to get to you. Don't stand on capture points unless you absolutely have to.
- All of your marks are unblockable and generate Life Force.
- Never spam your marks on the ground out of combat - they are easy to spot and a single dodge from the enemy can get rid of them. The only exception can be (because it's not a key skill and has a low CD), which you can freely place at an entrance or under yourself to potentially give away Stealthed enemy movement.
- Both weapon sets have access to unblockable CC skills (when playing with Warhorn): on Staff and on Scepter/Warhorn.
Blind when used in melee range of any enemy. This skill frequently pulses damage around you which can "consume" the blind on you, causing a tick of Locust Swarm to miss instead of some important skill you're casting.
can act as a counter to
Damage
- The build is all about keeping targets constantly pressured before finishing them off with
Fear chains. Fear is the strongest damaging condition in the build thanks to .
- Scepter/Warhorn is a bit more bursty while Staff is more of a utility weapon used to snare targets, transfer conditions, and CC/build Life Force from range.
Fear to the build.
is a strong burst skill but only when used on targets with at least 4-5 different conditions. It also corrupts a boon which means with a little luck this could add another source of
- There are 5 sources of
Fear in the build, try chaining them together when you're going for the kill on an already pressured target:
- Either when playing with Flesh Golem or when using Lich Form.
- - Shroud #3.
- - Warhorn #4 OR - Sword #5.
- - Staff #5.
Fear whenever an enemy crosses it, and you could force them to cross by using other sources of Fear on them. The duration of Fear stacks.
- utility skill. The ring applies
- Both the Scepter and Pistol autoattacks are far superior to Staff's in terms of damage. Scepter could even apply
Poison for healing reduction.
Weakness or for AoE .
is a Blast finisher, you may combo this with for AoE
- Elite-dependent can be taken for its synergy because this is the shortest CD core Necromancer elite skill.
Sustain
- The build has above average condition cleansing by Necromancer standards.
- Entering shroud causes your next attack to transfer conditions thanks to .
- Activate SW ⇒ jump off a cliff while being chased ⇒ when your enemies jump after you.
- Activate SW ⇒ (if using Flesh Wurm) ⇒ teleport back when they catch up to you. This works for stomping downed enemies as well, the channeling isn't interrupted by either of these teleports!
(SW) is great for preventing condition pressure from ramping up on you. Activating its chain skill which "ends" Spectral Walk does not stop the cleansing. This skill has many uses, for example:
- should be placed well before entering combat, preferably at a spot where your enemies can't reach it easily. Wurm provides you with an escape route and makes it easier to travel around the map in general. Last but not least, teleporting to the wurm with grants 10% life force, which means you could consider using the teleport before even leaving spawn at the start of a game in order to start off with enough LF for a activation.
- Even at maximum LF you may consider activating Spectral skills before entering death shroud. The added LF generation and sustain can prolong its duration significantly.
- is more of a last resort option that should only be used at or below ~50% HP and when other forms of cleansing/healing won't suffice.
Top Streamers
- Twitch: Naru
- Twitch: Bel
Related Builds
- Core Condition Roamer - the WvW Roaming version of this sPvP build.
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